From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua0-f198.google.com (mail-ua0-f198.google.com [209.85.217.198]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6796B0005 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ua0-f198.google.com with SMTP id g9so15121791ual.8 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-sor-f65.google.com (mail-sor-f65.google.com. [209.85.220.65]) by mx.google.com with SMTPS id j189sor4966972vka.94.2018.02.14.11.48.40 for (Google Transport Security); Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:48:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2f23544a-bd24-1e71-967b-e8d1cf5a20a3@redhat.com> References: <20180124175631.22925-1-igor.stoppa@huawei.com> <20180124175631.22925-5-igor.stoppa@huawei.com> <20180126053542.GA30189@bombadil.infradead.org> <8818bfd4-dd9f-f279-0432-69b59531bd41@huawei.com> <17e5b515-84c8-dca2-1695-cdf819834ea2@huawei.com> <414027d3-dd73-cf11-dc2a-e8c124591646@redhat.com> <2f23544a-bd24-1e71-967b-e8d1cf5a20a3@redhat.com> From: Kees Cook Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:48:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: arm64 physmap (was Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 4/6] Protectable Memory) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Laura Abbott Cc: Jann Horn , Igor Stoppa , Boris Lukashev , Christopher Lameter , Matthew Wilcox , Jerome Glisse , Michal Hocko , Christoph Hellwig , linux-security-module , Linux-MM , kernel list , Kernel Hardening , linux-arm-kernel On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Laura Abbott wrote: > fixed. Modules yes are not fully protected. The conclusion from past > experience has been that we cannot safely break down larger page sizes > at runtime like x86 does. We could theoretically > add support for fixing up the alias if PAGE_POISONING is enabled but > I don't know who would actually use that in production. Performance > is very poor at that point. XPFO forces 4K pages on the physmap[1] for similar reasons. I have no doubt about performance changes, but I'd be curious to see real numbers. Did anyone do benchmarks on just the huge/4K change? (Without also the XPFO overhead?) If this, XPFO, and PAGE_POISONING all need it, I think we have to start a closer investigation. :) -Kees [1] http://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2017/09/07/13 -- Kees Cook Pixel Security -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org