From: Matthew Maurer <mmaurer@google.com>
To: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] build: rust: provide an option to inline C helpers into Rust
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 15:25:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGSQo00bG7QF+u2WJQwMTiq6iGATcSfaAurkkppykkn+yTL-TQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251203212558.GB3060476@ax162>
> I am just curious, why would someone want (or not) to do this? This help
> text does not really indicate the point of the option, just what it
> does. Is it just the standard tradeoffs with inlining (potential
> improvements in performance due to better optimization opportunities
> versus text size increase and icache pressure) or something else?
The main situations where someone would want this off are:
* Not using `clang` (should already be covered in config logic)
* Out of tree module build without the whole kernel build tree (the
`.bc` file produced here would need to be shipped to your out-of-tree
module build environment - it essentially becomes like a header file
for purposes of building an out-of-tree / DKMS Rust module)
* Don't have matching `rustc` and `clang` LLVM (kind of covered in
config logic - if anyone is using a non-release version of LLVM, the
config may indicate them as compatible incorrectly).
* Requires out-of-tree / DKMS Rust modules to build with the same LLVM
revision as the kernel was built with - may be a packaging concern
While the usual inlining tradeoffs apply, all of these functions have
been explicitly marked `static inline`, which indicates those
tradeoffs have already been thought through.
I think that if we had a reliable signal of "`clang` and `rustc` use
compatible bitcode", turning this on by default would be reasonable.
As-is, we have a mostly-reliable signal, so defaulting it to off seems
reasonable so that people don't get surprise miscompilations if they
use a `clang` or `rustc` which are not using precisely a
release-boundary LLVM version. People who know their toolchain story
for x-lang is squared away can turn it on.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-03 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-02 20:27 [PATCH 0/4] Inline helpers into Rust without full LTO Alice Ryhl
2025-12-02 20:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] vmalloc: export vrealloc_node_align_noprof Alice Ryhl
2025-12-02 20:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] rust: helpers: #define __rust_helper Alice Ryhl
2025-12-02 20:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] kbuild: rust: add `CONFIG_RUSTC_CLANG_LLVM_COMPATIBLE` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-02 20:27 ` [PATCH 4/4] build: rust: provide an option to inline C helpers into Rust Alice Ryhl
2025-12-03 0:40 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-12-03 18:09 ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03 21:25 ` Nathan Chancellor
2025-12-03 23:25 ` Matthew Maurer [this message]
2025-12-04 9:46 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-04 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-04 10:23 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-04 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-04 11:57 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-12-04 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-04 13:03 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-04 12:49 ` Emilio Cobos Álvarez
2025-12-04 13:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-04 14:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-04 19:29 ` Matthew Maurer
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