From: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Isaac Manjarres <isaacmanjarres@google.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
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"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] crypto: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 13:23:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGETcx9zGaFFBqQ8d4kF-jz3nOjyShkbu3Z4YHpFY9_N+16g-w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y0mNek2pRpXexZxX@arm.com>
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 9:25 AM Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:58:22AM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 9:57 AM Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > > > If so, would there be concerns that the memory savings we get back from
> > > > reducing the memory footprint of kmalloc might be defeated by how much
> > > > memory is needed for bounce buffering?
> > >
> > > It's not necessarily about the saved memory but also locality of the
> > > small buffer allocations, less cache and TLB pressure.
> >
> > Part of the pushback we get when we try to move some of the Android
> > ecosystem from 32-bit to 64-bit is the memory usage increase. So,
> > while the main goal might not be memory savings, it'll be good to keep
> > that in mind too. I'd definitely not want this patch series to make
> > things worse. Ideally, it'd make things better. 10MB is considered a
> > lot on some of the super low speced devices.
>
> Well, we can still add the option to skip allocating from the small
> kmalloc caches if there's no swiotlb available.
This seems like a good compromise.
> > > I wonder whether swiotlb is actually the best option for bouncing
> > > unaligned buffers. We could use something like mempool_alloc() instead
> > > if we stick to small buffers rather than any (even large) buffer that's
> > > not aligned to a cache line. Or just go for kmem_cache_alloc() directly.
> > > A downside is that we may need GFP_ATOMIC for such allocations, so
> > > higher risk of failure.
> >
> > Yeah, a temporary kmem_cache_alloc() to bounce buffers off of feels
> > like a better idea than swiotlb. Especially for small allocations (say
> > 8 byte allocations) that might have gone into the kmem-cache-64 if we
> > hadn't dropped KMALLOC_MIN_ALIGN to 8.
>
> I now remembered why this isn't trivial. On the dma_unmap_*() side, we
> can't easily tell whether the buffer was bounced and it needs freeing.
> The swiotlb solves this by checking whether the address is within the
> pre-allocated swiotlb range. With kmem_caches, we could dig into the
> slab internals and check whether the pointer is part of a slab page,
> then check with kmem_cache that was. It looks too complicated and I'm
> rather tempted to just go for swiotlb if available or prevent the
> creation of small kmalloc caches if no swiotlb (TBH, even the initial
> series was an improvement dropping KMALLOC_MIN_ALIGN from 128 to 64).
Agreed. Even allowing a 64-byte kmalloc cache on a system with a
64-byte cacheline size saves quite a bit of memory.
-Saravana
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-14 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-05 13:57 [PATCH 00/10] mm, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN below the cache line size Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/slab: Decouple ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN from ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 23:59 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-06 8:53 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <CAK8P3a1K0=jwYEHVu=X7oAWk9dzaOYAdFsidwVRKCJVReSV3+g@mail.gmail.com>
2022-04-06 12:09 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08 6:42 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08 9:06 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08 9:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-11 10:37 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-11 14:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] drivers/base: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-11 14:57 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-04-11 17:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 03/10] drivers/gpu: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 04/10] drivers/md: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 05/10] drivers/spi: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 14:05 ` Mark Brown
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 06/10] drivers/usb: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 07/10] crypto: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 22:57 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-06 6:53 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-06 8:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-06 9:41 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-07 4:30 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-07 11:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 11:40 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-07 16:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08 3:25 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-08 9:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08 9:11 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12 9:32 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 9:40 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12 10:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 10:18 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12 12:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 22:01 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-13 8:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 19:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-14 5:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 13:52 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 14:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 14:36 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 14:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 15:01 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 15:10 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 19:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-14 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 6:03 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 11:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-16 9:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 19:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 19:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-14 14:30 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 6:51 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 7:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 7:51 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 8:05 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 8:12 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 9:51 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:04 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:12 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 10:22 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:45 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 11:38 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-17 8:08 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 8:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17 8:35 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 8:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17 8:58 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 16:30 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-18 8:37 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-18 9:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-18 16:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-19 21:50 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-20 10:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 11:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 7:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-21 7:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 7:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-21 8:05 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-21 11:06 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 12:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 13:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 13:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 14:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 14:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-10 11:03 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] crypto: Add helpers for allocating with DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] crypto: Prepare to move crypto_tfm_ctx Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] crypto: api - Add crypto_tfm_ctx_dma Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 17:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-05-12 3:57 ` Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] crypto: aead - Add ctx helpers with DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] crypto: hash " Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] crypto: skcipher " Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] crypto: api - Increase MAX_ALGAPI_ALIGNMASK to 127 Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] crypto: caam - Explicitly request DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 12:18 ` [PATCH 07/10] crypto: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-15 12:25 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 9:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-15 12:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17 8:11 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 8:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17 8:43 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 16:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-15 22:23 ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-07-16 3:25 ` Herbert Xu
2022-07-18 17:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-09-21 0:47 ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-09-30 18:32 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-09-30 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-01 22:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-02 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-02 22:08 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-10-02 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-03 17:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-12 17:45 ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-10-13 16:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-13 18:58 ` Saravana Kannan
2022-10-14 16:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-14 20:23 ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2022-10-14 20:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-16 21:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 10:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 6:14 ` Muchun Song
2022-04-07 9:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 10:00 ` Muchun Song
2022-04-07 11:06 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm/slab: Allow dynamic kmalloc() minimum alignment Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 3:46 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-07 8:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 9:18 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-07 9:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 12:26 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-11 11:55 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm/slab: Simplify create_kmalloc_cache() args and make it static Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 10/10] arm64: Enable dynamic kmalloc() minimum alignment Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 14:40 ` [PATCH 00/10] mm, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN below the cache line size Vlastimil Babka
2022-04-07 17:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08 14:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
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