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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	 Kevin Locke <kevin@kevinlocke.name>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	 Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	 "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Kentaro Takeda <takedakn@nttdata.co.jp>,
	 Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 apparmor@lists.ubuntu.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exec: Check __FMODE_EXEC instead of in_execve for LSMs
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 21:51:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez3v=dWVNaLwQi_f0j5X2+g5e9ubuaZoEkivsCTVK5u24Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiUwRG7LuR=z5sbkFVGQh+7qVB6_1NM0Ny9SVNL1Un4Sw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:47 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 12:15, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hmpf, and frustratingly Ubuntu (and Debian) still builds with
> > CONFIG_USELIB, even though it was reported[2] to them almost 4 years ago.
>
> Well, we could just remove the __FMODE_EXEC from uselib.
>
> It's kind of wrong anyway.
>
> Unlike a real execve(), where the target executable actually takes
> control and you can't actually control it (except with ptrace, of
> course), 'uselib()' really is just a wrapper around a special mmap.
>
> And you can see it in the "acc_mode" flags: uselib already requires
> MAY_READ for that reason. So you cannot uselib() a non-readable file,
> unlike execve().
>
> So I think just removing __FMODE_EXEC would just do the
> RightThing(tm), and changes nothing for any sane situation.

Sounds like a good idea. That makes this codepath behave more as if
userspace had done the same steps manually...


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-24 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-24 19:22 Kees Cook
2024-01-24 19:39 ` Kevin Locke
2024-01-24 19:51   ` Kees Cook
2024-01-24 19:58 ` Jann Horn
2024-01-24 20:15   ` Kees Cook
2024-01-24 20:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-24 20:51       ` Jann Horn [this message]
2024-01-24 21:32       ` Kees Cook
2024-01-24 21:35         ` Kees Cook
2024-01-24 21:40         ` Jann Horn
2024-01-24 21:50           ` Kees Cook
2024-01-25 14:34             ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-01-25 14:59               ` Jann Horn
2024-01-25 16:38         ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-01-27  4:53           ` John Johansen

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