From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, nadav.amit@gmail.com,
zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 14:04:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez3POBJibYmeUUWA0r3ArbMgKR8bSyo2Tf2YivwpM09ppA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96d1b007b3b88c43feac58d2646d675b94daf1fb.camel@surriel.com>
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 3:55 AM Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-01-03 at 18:36 +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> > Maybe change how mm->context.asid_transition works such that it is
> > immediately set on mm creation and cleared when the transition is
> > done, so that you don't have to touch it here?
> >
> If we want to document the ordering, won't it be better
> to keep both assignments close to each other (with WRITE_ONCE),
> so the code stays easier to understand for future maintenance?
You have a point there. I was thinking that if asid_transition is set
on mm creation, we don't have to think about the ordering properties
as hard; but I guess you're right that it would be more
clean/future-proof to do the writes together here.
> > > + return;
> > > +
> > > + for_each_cpu(cpu, mm_cpumask(mm)) {
> > > + if (READ_ONCE(per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm, cpu))
> > > != mm)
> > > + continue;
> >
> > switch_mm_irqs_off() picks an ASID and writes CR3 before writing
> > loaded_mm:
> > "/* Make sure we write CR3 before loaded_mm. */"
> >
> > Can we race with a concurrent switch_mm_irqs_off() on the other CPU
> > such that the other CPU has already switched CR3 to our MM using the
> > old ASID, but has not yet written loaded_mm, such that we skip it
> > here? And then we'll think we finished the ASID transition, and the
> > next time we do a flush, we'll wrongly omit the flush for that other
> > CPU even though it's still using the old ASID?
>
> That is a very good question.
>
> I suppose we need to check against LOADED_MM_SWITCHING
> too, and possibly wait to see what mm shows up on that
> CPU before proceeding?
>
> Maybe as simple as this?
>
> for_each_cpu(cpu, mm_cpumask(mm)) {
> while (READ_ONCE(per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm, cpu)
> == LOADED_MM_SWITCHING)
> cpu_relax();
>
> if (READ_ONCE(per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm, cpu)) !=
> mm)
> continue;
>
> /*
> * If at least one CPU is not using the broadcast ASID
> yet,
> * send a TLB flush IPI. The IPI should cause
> stragglers
> * to transition soon.
> */
> if (per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm_asid, cpu) !=
> bc_asid) {
> flush_tlb_multi(mm_cpumask(info->mm), info);
> return;
> }
> }
>
> Then the only change needed to switch_mm_irqs_off
> would be to move the LOADED_MM_SWITCHING line to
> before choose_new_asid, to fully close the window.
>
> Am I overlooking anything here?
I think that might require having a full memory barrier in
switch_mm_irqs_off to ensure that the write of LOADED_MM_SWITCHING
can't be reordered after reads in choose_new_asid(). Which wouldn't be
very nice; we probably should avoid adding heavy barriers to the task
switch path...
Hmm, but I think luckily the cpumask_set_cpu() already implies a
relaxed RMW atomic, which I think on X86 is actually the same as a
sequentially consistent atomic, so as long as you put the
LOADED_MM_SWITCHING line before that, it might do the job? Maybe with
an smp_mb__after_atomic() and/or an explainer comment.
(smp_mb__after_atomic() is a no-op on x86, so maybe just a comment is
the right way. Documentation/memory-barriers.txt says
smp_mb__after_atomic() can be used together with atomic RMW bitop
functions.)
> > > +
> > > + /*
> > > + * If at least one CPU is not using the broadcast
> > > ASID yet,
> > > + * send a TLB flush IPI. The IPI should cause
> > > stragglers
> > > + * to transition soon.
> > > + */
> > > + if (per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm_asid, cpu) !=
> > > bc_asid) {
> >
> > READ_ONCE()? Also, I think this needs a comment explaining that this
> > can race with concurrent MM switches such that we wrongly think that
> > there's a straggler (because we're not reading the loaded_mm and the
> > loaded_mm_asid as one atomic combination).
>
> I'll add the READ_ONCE.
>
> Will the race still exist if we wait on
> LOADED_MM_SWITCHING as proposed above?
I think so, since between reading the loaded_mm and reading the
loaded_mm_asid, the remote CPU might go through an entire task switch.
Like:
1. We read the loaded_mm, and see that the remote CPU is currently
running in our mm_struct.
2. The remote CPU does a task switch to another process with a
different mm_struct.
3. We read the loaded_mm_asid, and see an ASID that does not match our
broadcast ASID (because the loaded ASID is not for our mm_struct).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-06 13:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-30 17:53 [PATCH v3 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 01/12] x86/mm: make MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE unconditional Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 18:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-31 16:11 ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-31 16:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-31 16:30 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 11:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 19:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-03 12:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-04 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-06 15:54 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 15:47 ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 02/12] x86/mm: remove pv_ops.mmu.tlb_remove_table call Rik van Riel
2024-12-31 3:18 ` Qi Zheng
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 03/12] x86/mm: add X86_FEATURE_INVLPGB definition Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 18:27 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 21:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86/mm: get INVLPGB count max from CPUID Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 18:44 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:27 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 20:31 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 05/12] x86/mm: add INVLPGB support code Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-06 16:50 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 17:32 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 18:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-14 19:50 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 12:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86/mm: use INVLPGB for kernel TLB flushes Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 12:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-06 17:21 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-09 20:16 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-09 21:18 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10 5:31 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 6:07 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-10 15:14 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10 16:08 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 16:29 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10 16:36 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 18:53 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:29 ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 07/12] x86/tlb: use INVLPGB in flush_tlb_all Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 17:29 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 17:35 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 17:54 ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 08/12] x86/mm: use broadcast TLB flushing for page reclaim TLB flushing Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 19:24 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-01 4:42 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-01 15:20 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-01 16:15 ` Karim Manaouil
2025-01-01 16:23 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 0:06 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-03 17:36 ` Jann Horn
2025-01-04 2:55 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 13:04 ` Jann Horn [this message]
2025-01-06 14:26 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 14:52 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-06 16:03 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 18:40 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-12 2:36 ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86,tlb: do targeted broadcast flushing from tlbbatch code Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86/mm: enable AMD translation cache extensions Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 18:25 ` Nadav Amit
2024-12-30 18:27 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 17:49 ` Jann Horn
2025-01-04 3:08 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 13:10 ` Jann Horn
2025-01-06 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 19:34 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 19:45 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 19:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 20:43 ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 12/12] x86/mm: only invalidate final translations with INVLPGB Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 18:40 ` Jann Horn
2025-01-12 2:39 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Dave Hansen
2025-01-12 2:46 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 22:49 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07 3:25 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-08 1:36 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-09 2:25 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09 2:47 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09 21:32 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-09 23:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09 23:26 ` Yosry Ahmed
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