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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com,  dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,  tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, nadav.amit@gmail.com,
	zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com,  linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 14:04:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez3POBJibYmeUUWA0r3ArbMgKR8bSyo2Tf2YivwpM09ppA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96d1b007b3b88c43feac58d2646d675b94daf1fb.camel@surriel.com>

On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 3:55 AM Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-01-03 at 18:36 +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> > Maybe change how mm->context.asid_transition works such that it is
> > immediately set on mm creation and cleared when the transition is
> > done, so that you don't have to touch it here?
> >
> If we want to document the ordering, won't it be better
> to keep both assignments close to each other (with WRITE_ONCE),
> so the code stays easier to understand for future maintenance?

You have a point there. I was thinking that if asid_transition is set
on mm creation, we don't have to think about the ordering properties
as hard; but I guess you're right that it would be more
clean/future-proof to do the writes together here.

> > > +               return;
> > > +
> > > +       for_each_cpu(cpu, mm_cpumask(mm)) {
> > > +               if (READ_ONCE(per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm, cpu))
> > > != mm)
> > > +                       continue;
> >
> > switch_mm_irqs_off() picks an ASID and writes CR3 before writing
> > loaded_mm:
> > "/* Make sure we write CR3 before loaded_mm. */"
> >
> > Can we race with a concurrent switch_mm_irqs_off() on the other CPU
> > such that the other CPU has already switched CR3 to our MM using the
> > old ASID, but has not yet written loaded_mm, such that we skip it
> > here? And then we'll think we finished the ASID transition, and the
> > next time we do a flush, we'll wrongly omit the flush for that other
> > CPU even though it's still using the old ASID?
>
> That is a very good question.
>
> I suppose we need to check against LOADED_MM_SWITCHING
> too, and possibly wait to see what mm shows up on that
> CPU before proceeding?
>
> Maybe as simple as this?
>
>         for_each_cpu(cpu, mm_cpumask(mm)) {
>                 while (READ_ONCE(per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm, cpu)
> == LOADED_MM_SWITCHING)
>                         cpu_relax();
>
>                 if (READ_ONCE(per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm, cpu)) !=
> mm)
>                         continue;
>
>                 /*
>                  * If at least one CPU is not using the broadcast ASID
> yet,
>                  * send a TLB flush IPI. The IPI should cause
> stragglers
>                  * to transition soon.
>                  */
>                 if (per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm_asid, cpu) !=
> bc_asid) {
>                         flush_tlb_multi(mm_cpumask(info->mm), info);
>                         return;
>                 }
>         }
>
> Then the only change needed to switch_mm_irqs_off
> would be to move the LOADED_MM_SWITCHING line to
> before choose_new_asid, to fully close the window.
>
> Am I overlooking anything here?

I think that might require having a full memory barrier in
switch_mm_irqs_off to ensure that the write of LOADED_MM_SWITCHING
can't be reordered after reads in choose_new_asid(). Which wouldn't be
very nice; we probably should avoid adding heavy barriers to the task
switch path...

Hmm, but I think luckily the cpumask_set_cpu() already implies a
relaxed RMW atomic, which I think on X86 is actually the same as a
sequentially consistent atomic, so as long as you put the
LOADED_MM_SWITCHING line before that, it might do the job? Maybe with
an smp_mb__after_atomic() and/or an explainer comment.
(smp_mb__after_atomic() is a no-op on x86, so maybe just a comment is
the right way. Documentation/memory-barriers.txt says
smp_mb__after_atomic() can be used together with atomic RMW bitop
functions.)

> > > +
> > > +               /*
> > > +                * If at least one CPU is not using the broadcast
> > > ASID yet,
> > > +                * send a TLB flush IPI. The IPI should cause
> > > stragglers
> > > +                * to transition soon.
> > > +                */
> > > +               if (per_cpu(cpu_tlbstate.loaded_mm_asid, cpu) !=
> > > bc_asid) {
> >
> > READ_ONCE()? Also, I think this needs a comment explaining that this
> > can race with concurrent MM switches such that we wrongly think that
> > there's a straggler (because we're not reading the loaded_mm and the
> > loaded_mm_asid as one atomic combination).
>
> I'll add the READ_ONCE.
>
> Will the race still exist if we wait on
> LOADED_MM_SWITCHING as proposed above?

I think so, since between reading the loaded_mm and reading the
loaded_mm_asid, the remote CPU might go through an entire task switch.
Like:

1. We read the loaded_mm, and see that the remote CPU is currently
running in our mm_struct.
2. The remote CPU does a task switch to another process with a
different mm_struct.
3. We read the loaded_mm_asid, and see an ASID that does not match our
broadcast ASID (because the loaded ASID is not for our mm_struct).


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-06 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-30 17:53 [PATCH v3 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 01/12] x86/mm: make MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE unconditional Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 18:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-31 16:11     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-31 16:19       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-31 16:30         ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 11:52           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 19:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-03 12:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-04 16:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-06 15:54             ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 15:47           ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 02/12] x86/mm: remove pv_ops.mmu.tlb_remove_table call Rik van Riel
2024-12-31  3:18   ` Qi Zheng
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 03/12] x86/mm: add X86_FEATURE_INVLPGB definition Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 18:27     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 21:07       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86/mm: get INVLPGB count max from CPUID Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 18:44   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:27     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 20:31       ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:34       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 05/12] x86/mm: add INVLPGB support code Rik van Riel
2025-01-02 12:42   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-06 16:50     ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 17:32       ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 18:14       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-14 19:50     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 12:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86/mm: use INVLPGB for kernel TLB flushes Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 12:39   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-06 17:21   ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-09 20:16     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-09 21:18       ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10  5:31         ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10  6:07         ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-10 15:14           ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10 16:08             ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 16:29               ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-10 16:36                 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 18:53   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 20:29     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 07/12] x86/tlb: use INVLPGB in flush_tlb_all Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 17:29   ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-06 17:35     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 17:54       ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 08/12] x86/mm: use broadcast TLB flushing for page reclaim TLB flushing Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 19:24   ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-01  4:42     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-01 15:20       ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-01 16:15         ` Karim Manaouil
2025-01-01 16:23           ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-02  0:06             ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-03 17:36   ` Jann Horn
2025-01-04  2:55     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 13:04       ` Jann Horn [this message]
2025-01-06 14:26         ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 14:52   ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-06 16:03     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 18:40   ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-12  2:36     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86,tlb: do targeted broadcast flushing from tlbbatch code Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86/mm: enable AMD translation cache extensions Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 18:25   ` Nadav Amit
2024-12-30 18:27     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 17:49   ` Jann Horn
2025-01-04  3:08     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 13:10       ` Jann Horn
2025-01-06 18:29         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 19:34   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-10 19:45     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-10 19:58       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-10 20:43         ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-30 17:53 ` [PATCH 12/12] x86/mm: only invalidate final translations with INVLPGB Rik van Riel
2025-01-03 18:40   ` Jann Horn
2025-01-12  2:39     ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Dave Hansen
2025-01-12  2:46   ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-06 22:49 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-07  3:25   ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-08  1:36     ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-09  2:25       ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09  2:47       ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09 21:32         ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-01-09 23:00           ` Andrew Cooper
2025-01-09 23:26             ` Yosry Ahmed

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