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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmap.2: document new MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE flag
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:40:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez2wYqxJEHgZCz5g6ZYBY4_qDcYWSGAErC8pUzmrW62rug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180411163631.GL23400@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed 11-04-18 17:37:46, Jann Horn wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:04 PM,  <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>> >
>> > 4.17+ kernels offer a new MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE flag which allows the caller to
>> > atomicaly probe for a given address range.
>> >
>> > [wording heavily updated by John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>]
>> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>> > ---
>> > Hi,
>> > Andrew's sent the MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE to Linus for the upcoming merge
>> > window. So here we go with the man page update.
>> >
>> >  man2/mmap.2 | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2
>> > index ea64eb8f0dcc..f702f3e4eba2 100644
>> > --- a/man2/mmap.2
>> > +++ b/man2/mmap.2
>> > @@ -261,6 +261,27 @@ Examples include
>> >  and the PAM libraries
>> >  .UR http://www.linux-pam.org
>> >  .UE .
>> > +Newer kernels
>> > +(Linux 4.17 and later) have a
>> > +.B MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE
>> > +option that avoids the corruption problem; if available, MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE
>> > +should be preferred over MAP_FIXED.
>>
>> This still looks wrong to me. There are legitimate uses for MAP_FIXED,
>> and for most users of MAP_FIXED that I'm aware of, MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE
>> wouldn't work while MAP_FIXED works perfectly well.
>>
>> MAP_FIXED is for when you have already reserved the targeted memory
>> area using another VMA; MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE is for when you haven't.
>> Please don't make it sound as if MAP_FIXED is always wrong.
>
> Well, this was suggested by John. I think, nobody is objecting that
> MAP_FIXED has legitimate usecases. The above text just follows up on
> the previous section which emphasises the potential memory corruption
> problems and it suggests that a new flag is safe with that regards.
>
> If you have specific wording that would be better I am open for changes.

I guess I'd probably also want to change the previous text; so I
should probably send a followup patch once this one has landed.

>> > +.TP
>> > +.BR MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE " (since Linux 4.17)"
>> > +Similar to MAP_FIXED with respect to the
>> > +.I
>> > +addr
>> > +enforcement, but different in that MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE never clobbers a pre-existing
>> > +mapped range. If the requested range would collide with an existing
>> > +mapping, then this call fails with
>> > +.B EEXIST.
>> > +This flag can therefore be used as a way to atomically (with respect to other
>> > +threads) attempt to map an address range: one thread will succeed; all others
>> > +will report failure. Please note that older kernels which do not recognize this
>> > +flag will typically (upon detecting a collision with a pre-existing mapping)
>> > +fall back to a "non-MAP_FIXED" type of behavior: they will return an address that
>> > +is different than the requested one. Therefore, backward-compatible software
>> > +should check the returned address against the requested address.
>> >  .TP
>> >  .B MAP_GROWSDOWN
>> >  This flag is used for stacks.
>> > @@ -487,6 +508,12 @@ is not a valid file descriptor (and
>> >  .B MAP_ANONYMOUS
>> >  was not set).
>> >  .TP
>> > +.B EEXIST
>> > +range covered by
>> > +.IR addr ,
>> > +.IR length
>> > +is clashing with an existing mapping.
>>
>> Maybe add something like ", and MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE was specified"? I
>> think most manpages explicitly document which error conditions can be
>> triggered by which flags.
>
> sure, no objection from me.
>
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-11 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-11 12:04 mhocko
2018-04-11 15:37 ` Jann Horn
2018-04-11 16:36   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-11 16:40     ` Jann Horn [this message]
2018-04-11 17:06       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-12  8:09       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-04-12  8:10       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-04-11 20:36   ` John Hubbard
2018-04-12  8:04 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-04-12  8:21   ` Michal Hocko

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