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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	oleg@redhat.com,  rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jolsa@kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org,  willy@infradead.org,
	surenb@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, mjguzik@gmail.com, brauner@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: introduce mmap_lock_speculation_{start|end}
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 14:35:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez2hAQBj-VnimJBd3M-ioANVTk+ZQXYWD+j9G+ip2K_nfw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240906051205.530219-2-andrii@kernel.org>

On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 7:12 AM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org> wrote:
> +static inline bool mmap_lock_speculation_end(struct mm_struct *mm, int seq)
> +{
> +       /* Pairs with RELEASE semantics in inc_mm_lock_seq(). */
> +       return seq == smp_load_acquire(&mm->mm_lock_seq);
> +}

A load-acquire can't provide "end of locked section" semantics - a
load-acquire is a one-way barrier, you can basically use it for
"acquire lock" semantics but not for "release lock" semantics, because
the CPU will prevent reordering the load with *later* loads but not
with *earlier* loads. So if you do:

mmap_lock_speculation_start()
[locked reads go here]
mmap_lock_speculation_end()

then the CPU is allowed to reorder your instructions like this:

mmap_lock_speculation_start()
mmap_lock_speculation_end()
[locked reads go here]

so the lock is broken.

>  static inline void mmap_write_lock(struct mm_struct *mm)
>  {
>         __mmap_lock_trace_start_locking(mm, true);
>         down_write(&mm->mmap_lock);
> +       inc_mm_lock_seq(mm);
>         __mmap_lock_trace_acquire_returned(mm, true, true);
>  }

Similarly, inc_mm_lock_seq(), which does a store-release, can only
provide "release lock" semantics, not "take lock" semantics, because
the CPU can reorder it with later stores; for example, this code:

inc_mm_lock_seq()
[locked stuff goes here]
inc_mm_lock_seq()

can be reordered into this:

[locked stuff goes here]
inc_mm_lock_seq()
inc_mm_lock_seq()

so the lock is broken.

For "taking a lock" with a memory store, or "dropping a lock" with a
memory load, you need heavier memory barriers, see
Documentation/memory-barriers.txt.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-06  5:12 [PATCH 0/2] uprobes,mm: speculative lockless VMA-to-uprobe lookup Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-06  5:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: introduce mmap_lock_speculation_{start|end} Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-09 12:35   ` Jann Horn [this message]
2024-09-10  2:09     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-09-10 15:31       ` Jann Horn
2024-09-11 21:34       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-11 21:48         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-09-12 21:02           ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-09-12 21:04             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-09-12 22:19               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-12 22:24                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-09-12 22:52             ` Jann Horn
2024-09-24 17:15               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-24 18:00                 ` Jann Horn
2024-09-06  5:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] uprobes: add speculative lockless VMA-to-inode-to-uprobe resolution Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-08  1:22   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-09  1:08     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-09 13:12   ` Jann Horn
2024-09-09 21:29     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-10 15:39       ` Jann Horn
2024-09-10 20:56         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-10 16:32       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-09-10 20:58         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-12 11:17           ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-12 17:54             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-15 15:04   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-17  8:19     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-10 16:06 ` [PATCH 0/2] uprobes,mm: speculative lockless VMA-to-uprobe lookup Jann Horn
2024-09-10 17:58   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-10 18:13     ` Jann Horn

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