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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	jeffxu@chromium.org, keescook@chromium.org,  jannh@google.com,
	sroettger@google.com, willy@infradead.org,
	 gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, usama.anjum@collabora.com,
	corbet@lwn.net,  surenb@google.com, merimus@google.com,
	rdunlap@infradead.org,  jeffxu@google.com, jorgelo@chromium.org,
	groeck@chromium.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	pedro.falcato@gmail.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	 linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, deraadt@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 2/5] mseal: add mseal syscall
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 17:17:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez2ezHXVWg4y7yUx9Wi1CKk_KeU_7RJVBqkABjQhM=HbBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v22gngid25vcufvdfbv3pdymq3s72c47pizr23tkrmbbyiqoe4@y5yxseh6thnf>

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 4:59 PM Liam R. Howlett <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:
> * jeffxu@chromium.org <jeffxu@chromium.org> [240415 12:35]:
> > From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
> >
> > The new mseal() is an syscall on 64 bit CPU, and with
> > following signature:
> >
> > int mseal(void addr, size_t len, unsigned long flags)
> > addr/len: memory range.
> > flags: reserved.
[...]
> No per-vma change is checked prior to entering a per-vma modification
> loop today. This means that mseal() differs in behaviour in "up-front
> failure" vs "partial change failure" that exists in every other
> function.
>
> I'm not saying it's wrong or that it's right - I'm just wondering what
> the direction is here.  Either we should do as much up-front as
> possible or keep with tradition and have (partial) success where
> possible.

FWIW, in the current version, I think ENOMEM can happen both in the
up-front check (for calling the syscall on unmapped ranges) as well as
in the later loop (for VMA splitting failure).

I think no matter what we do, a process that gets an error other than
ENOSYS from mseal() will probably not get much actionable information
from the return value... no matter whether sealing worked partly or
not at all, the process will have the same choice between either
exiting (if it treats sealing failure as a fatal error for security
reasons) or continuing as if the sealing had worked.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-16 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-15 16:35 [PATCH v10 0/5] Introduce mseal jeffxu
2024-04-15 16:35 ` [PATCH v10 1/5] mseal: Wire up mseal syscall jeffxu
2024-04-15 18:12   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2024-04-15 18:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-15 19:06       ` Jeff Xu
2024-04-15 16:35 ` [PATCH v10 2/5] mseal: add " jeffxu
2024-04-16 14:59   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-04-16 15:17     ` Jann Horn [this message]
2024-04-16 16:42     ` Theo de Raadt
2024-04-15 16:35 ` [PATCH v10 3/5] selftest mm/mseal memory sealing jeffxu
2024-04-15 18:32   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2024-04-15 20:27     ` Jeff Xu
2024-04-16  0:34       ` Kees Cook
2024-05-02 11:24   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-05-02 15:18     ` Jeff Xu
2024-05-02 22:39     ` Jeff Xu
2024-05-03  8:30       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-15 16:35 ` [PATCH v10 4/5] mseal:add documentation jeffxu
2024-04-15 16:35 ` [PATCH v10 5/5] selftest mm/mseal read-only elf memory segment jeffxu
2024-04-16 15:13 ` [PATCH v10 0/5] Introduce mseal Liam R. Howlett
2024-04-16 19:40   ` Jeff Xu
2024-04-18 20:19     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-19  1:22       ` Jeff Xu
2024-04-19 14:57         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-19 15:14           ` Jeff Xu
2024-04-19 16:54             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-04-19 17:59         ` Pedro Falcato
2024-04-20  1:23           ` Jeff Xu
2024-05-14 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2024-05-14 19:52   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-23 23:32     ` Kees Cook
2024-05-23 23:54       ` Andrew Morton
2024-05-24 15:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-14 20:59   ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-05-14 21:28     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-14 22:48       ` Theo de Raadt
2024-05-14 23:01         ` Andrew Morton
2024-05-14 23:47           ` Theo de Raadt
2024-05-15  2:58             ` Willy Tarreau
2024-05-15  3:36               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-15  4:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-15  6:14                   ` Willy Tarreau
2024-05-15  0:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-15  0:57           ` Theo de Raadt
2024-05-15  1:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-15  1:47               ` Theo de Raadt
2024-05-15  2:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-15  2:42                   ` Theo de Raadt
2024-05-15  4:53                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-05-14 21:28   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-05-15 17:18     ` Jeff Xu
2024-05-15 22:19       ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-05-16  0:59         ` Jeff Xu
2024-05-21 16:00           ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-05-21 20:55             ` Jeff Xu

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