* [syzbot] [mm?] KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended @ 2025-05-06 7:52 syzbot 2025-05-12 17:44 ` Jann Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: syzbot @ 2025-05-06 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: akpm, baolin.wang, hughd, linux-kernel, linux-mm, syzkaller-bugs Hello, syzbot found the following issue on: HEAD commit: 01f95500a162 Merge tag 'uml-for-linux-6.15-rc6' of git://g.. git tree: upstream console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17abbb68580000 kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=6154604431d9aaf9 dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=189d4742d07e937d68ea compiler: Debian clang version 20.1.2 (++20250402124445+58df0ef89dd6-1~exp1~20250402004600.97), Debian LLD 20.1.2 Unfortunately, I don't have any reproducer for this issue yet. Downloadable assets: disk image: https://storage.googleapis.com/syzbot-assets/8d61c7d3421d/disk-01f95500.raw.xz vmlinux: https://storage.googleapis.com/syzbot-assets/d86d0377eab0/vmlinux-01f95500.xz kernel image: https://storage.googleapis.com/syzbot-assets/a6f455ac4fd5/bzImage-01f95500.xz IMPORTANT: if you fix the issue, please add the following tag to the commit: Reported-by: syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com ================================================================== BUG: KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended read to 0xffff88811d47e000 of 2048 bytes by task 37 on cpu 0: memcpy_from_iter lib/iov_iter.c:73 [inline] iterate_bvec include/linux/iov_iter.h:123 [inline] iterate_and_advance2 include/linux/iov_iter.h:304 [inline] iterate_and_advance include/linux/iov_iter.h:328 [inline] __copy_from_iter lib/iov_iter.c:249 [inline] copy_page_from_iter_atomic+0x77f/0xff0 lib/iov_iter.c:483 copy_folio_from_iter_atomic include/linux/uio.h:210 [inline] generic_perform_write+0x2c2/0x490 mm/filemap.c:4121 shmem_file_write_iter+0xc5/0xf0 mm/shmem.c:3464 lo_rw_aio+0x5f7/0x7c0 drivers/block/loop.c:-1 do_req_filebacked drivers/block/loop.c:-1 [inline] loop_handle_cmd drivers/block/loop.c:1866 [inline] loop_process_work+0x52d/0xa60 drivers/block/loop.c:1901 loop_workfn+0x31/0x40 drivers/block/loop.c:1925 process_one_work kernel/workqueue.c:3238 [inline] process_scheduled_works+0x4cb/0x9d0 kernel/workqueue.c:3319 worker_thread+0x582/0x770 kernel/workqueue.c:3400 kthread+0x486/0x510 kernel/kthread.c:464 ret_from_fork+0x4b/0x60 arch/x86/kernel/process.c:153 ret_from_fork_asm+0x1a/0x30 arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S:245 write to 0xffff88811d47e018 of 4072 bytes by task 4432 on cpu 1: zero_user_segments include/linux/highmem.h:278 [inline] folio_zero_segment include/linux/highmem.h:635 [inline] pagecache_isize_extended+0x26f/0x340 mm/truncate.c:850 ext4_alloc_file_blocks+0x4ad/0x720 fs/ext4/extents.c:4545 ext4_do_fallocate fs/ext4/extents.c:4694 [inline] ext4_fallocate+0x2b8/0x660 fs/ext4/extents.c:4750 vfs_fallocate+0x410/0x450 fs/open.c:338 ksys_fallocate fs/open.c:362 [inline] __do_sys_fallocate fs/open.c:367 [inline] __se_sys_fallocate fs/open.c:365 [inline] __x64_sys_fallocate+0x7a/0xd0 fs/open.c:365 x64_sys_call+0x2b88/0x2fb0 arch/x86/include/generated/asm/syscalls_64.h:286 do_syscall_x64 arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c:63 [inline] do_syscall_64+0xd0/0x1a0 arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c:94 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x77/0x7f Reported by Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer on: CPU: 1 UID: 0 PID: 4432 Comm: syz.8.11649 Not tainted 6.15.0-rc5-syzkaller-00022-g01f95500a162 #0 PREEMPT(voluntary) Hardware name: Google Google Compute Engine/Google Compute Engine, BIOS Google 04/19/2025 ================================================================== --- This report is generated by a bot. It may contain errors. See https://goo.gl/tpsmEJ for more information about syzbot. syzbot engineers can be reached at syzkaller@googlegroups.com. syzbot will keep track of this issue. See: https://goo.gl/tpsmEJ#status for how to communicate with syzbot. If the report is already addressed, let syzbot know by replying with: #syz fix: exact-commit-title If you want to overwrite report's subsystems, reply with: #syz set subsystems: new-subsystem (See the list of subsystem names on the web dashboard) If the report is a duplicate of another one, reply with: #syz dup: exact-subject-of-another-report If you want to undo deduplication, reply with: #syz undup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [syzbot] [mm?] KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended 2025-05-06 7:52 [syzbot] [mm?] KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended syzbot @ 2025-05-12 17:44 ` Jann Horn 2025-05-12 18:32 ` Jann Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Jann Horn @ 2025-05-12 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: syzkaller, syzbot Cc: akpm, baolin.wang, hughd, linux-kernel, linux-mm, syzkaller-bugs On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 9:52 AM syzbot <syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com> wrote: > HEAD commit: 01f95500a162 Merge tag 'uml-for-linux-6.15-rc6' of git://g.. > git tree: upstream > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17abbb68580000 > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=6154604431d9aaf9 > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=189d4742d07e937d68ea > compiler: Debian clang version 20.1.2 (++20250402124445+58df0ef89dd6-1~exp1~20250402004600.97), Debian LLD 20.1.2 [...] > IMPORTANT: if you fix the issue, please add the following tag to the commit: > Reported-by: syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com > > ================================================================== > BUG: KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended I think this is a problem with the KCSAN implementation. This is a race between writing to a userspace-owned page and reading from a userspace-owned page. This kind of pattern should be fairly trivial to trigger: If userspace tells the kernel to read from a GUP'd page or pagecache on one thread, and simultaneously tells the kernel to write to the same page on another thread, we'll get a data race. This is not really a kernel data race; it is more like a userspace race whose memory accesses happen to go through the kernel. So I think the fix would be for KCSAN to ignore anything in such pages. The hard part is, I'm not sure how to tell what kind of page we're dealing with from the kernel, some MM people might know... distinguishing normal pagecache/anon pages from other pages might be doable, but I guess it probably gets hard when thinking about driver-allocated pages that were mapped into userspace vs driver-allocated pages that are used internally in the driver... > read to 0xffff88811d47e000 of 2048 bytes by task 37 on cpu 0: > memcpy_from_iter lib/iov_iter.c:73 [inline] > iterate_bvec include/linux/iov_iter.h:123 [inline] > iterate_and_advance2 include/linux/iov_iter.h:304 [inline] > iterate_and_advance include/linux/iov_iter.h:328 [inline] > __copy_from_iter lib/iov_iter.c:249 [inline] > copy_page_from_iter_atomic+0x77f/0xff0 lib/iov_iter.c:483 > copy_folio_from_iter_atomic include/linux/uio.h:210 [inline] > generic_perform_write+0x2c2/0x490 mm/filemap.c:4121 > shmem_file_write_iter+0xc5/0xf0 mm/shmem.c:3464 > lo_rw_aio+0x5f7/0x7c0 drivers/block/loop.c:-1 > do_req_filebacked drivers/block/loop.c:-1 [inline] > loop_handle_cmd drivers/block/loop.c:1866 [inline] > loop_process_work+0x52d/0xa60 drivers/block/loop.c:1901 > loop_workfn+0x31/0x40 drivers/block/loop.c:1925 > process_one_work kernel/workqueue.c:3238 [inline] > process_scheduled_works+0x4cb/0x9d0 kernel/workqueue.c:3319 > worker_thread+0x582/0x770 kernel/workqueue.c:3400 > kthread+0x486/0x510 kernel/kthread.c:464 > ret_from_fork+0x4b/0x60 arch/x86/kernel/process.c:153 > ret_from_fork_asm+0x1a/0x30 arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S:245 > > write to 0xffff88811d47e018 of 4072 bytes by task 4432 on cpu 1: > zero_user_segments include/linux/highmem.h:278 [inline] > folio_zero_segment include/linux/highmem.h:635 [inline] > pagecache_isize_extended+0x26f/0x340 mm/truncate.c:850 > ext4_alloc_file_blocks+0x4ad/0x720 fs/ext4/extents.c:4545 > ext4_do_fallocate fs/ext4/extents.c:4694 [inline] > ext4_fallocate+0x2b8/0x660 fs/ext4/extents.c:4750 > vfs_fallocate+0x410/0x450 fs/open.c:338 > ksys_fallocate fs/open.c:362 [inline] > __do_sys_fallocate fs/open.c:367 [inline] > __se_sys_fallocate fs/open.c:365 [inline] > __x64_sys_fallocate+0x7a/0xd0 fs/open.c:365 > x64_sys_call+0x2b88/0x2fb0 arch/x86/include/generated/asm/syscalls_64.h:286 > do_syscall_x64 arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c:63 [inline] > do_syscall_64+0xd0/0x1a0 arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c:94 > entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x77/0x7f ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [syzbot] [mm?] KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended 2025-05-12 17:44 ` Jann Horn @ 2025-05-12 18:32 ` Jann Horn 2025-05-12 20:51 ` Marco Elver 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Jann Horn @ 2025-05-12 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: syzkaller, syzbot Cc: akpm, baolin.wang, hughd, linux-kernel, linux-mm, syzkaller-bugs On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 7:44 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 9:52 AM syzbot > <syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com> wrote: > > HEAD commit: 01f95500a162 Merge tag 'uml-for-linux-6.15-rc6' of git://g.. > > git tree: upstream > > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17abbb68580000 > > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=6154604431d9aaf9 > > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=189d4742d07e937d68ea > > compiler: Debian clang version 20.1.2 (++20250402124445+58df0ef89dd6-1~exp1~20250402004600.97), Debian LLD 20.1.2 > [...] > > IMPORTANT: if you fix the issue, please add the following tag to the commit: > > Reported-by: syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com > > > > ================================================================== > > BUG: KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended > > I think this is a problem with the KCSAN implementation. > > This is a race between writing to a userspace-owned page and reading > from a userspace-owned page. > > This kind of pattern should be fairly trivial to trigger: If userspace > tells the kernel to read from a GUP'd page or pagecache on one thread, > and simultaneously tells the kernel to write to the same page on > another thread, we'll get a data race. This is not really a kernel > data race; it is more like a userspace race whose memory accesses > happen to go through the kernel. > > So I think the fix would be for KCSAN to ignore anything in such > pages. The hard part is, I'm not sure how to tell what kind of page > we're dealing with from the kernel, some MM people might know... Or alternatively, if we really do want data_race() operations around any memset() or memcpy() on userspace-controlled pages, I guess we'd have to pepper a lot of those around the kernel. Also, I didn't really think about some of what I wrote here - we certainly wouldn't want to ignore unannotated accesses to some struct located in pagecache that userspace can concurrently write to. Maybe it would actually make sense to do the opposite of what I said to some extent, special-case userspace-mapped pages such that KCSAN _always_ alerts on plain access to them... > distinguishing normal pagecache/anon pages from other pages might be > doable, but I guess it probably gets hard when thinking about > driver-allocated pages that were mapped into userspace vs > driver-allocated pages that are used internally in the driver... > > read to 0xffff88811d47e000 of 2048 bytes by task 37 on cpu 0: > > memcpy_from_iter lib/iov_iter.c:73 [inline] > > iterate_bvec include/linux/iov_iter.h:123 [inline] > > iterate_and_advance2 include/linux/iov_iter.h:304 [inline] > > iterate_and_advance include/linux/iov_iter.h:328 [inline] > > __copy_from_iter lib/iov_iter.c:249 [inline] > > copy_page_from_iter_atomic+0x77f/0xff0 lib/iov_iter.c:483 > > copy_folio_from_iter_atomic include/linux/uio.h:210 [inline] > > generic_perform_write+0x2c2/0x490 mm/filemap.c:4121 > > shmem_file_write_iter+0xc5/0xf0 mm/shmem.c:3464 > > lo_rw_aio+0x5f7/0x7c0 drivers/block/loop.c:-1 > > do_req_filebacked drivers/block/loop.c:-1 [inline] > > loop_handle_cmd drivers/block/loop.c:1866 [inline] > > loop_process_work+0x52d/0xa60 drivers/block/loop.c:1901 > > loop_workfn+0x31/0x40 drivers/block/loop.c:1925 > > process_one_work kernel/workqueue.c:3238 [inline] > > process_scheduled_works+0x4cb/0x9d0 kernel/workqueue.c:3319 > > worker_thread+0x582/0x770 kernel/workqueue.c:3400 > > kthread+0x486/0x510 kernel/kthread.c:464 > > ret_from_fork+0x4b/0x60 arch/x86/kernel/process.c:153 > > ret_from_fork_asm+0x1a/0x30 arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S:245 > > > > write to 0xffff88811d47e018 of 4072 bytes by task 4432 on cpu 1: > > zero_user_segments include/linux/highmem.h:278 [inline] > > folio_zero_segment include/linux/highmem.h:635 [inline] > > pagecache_isize_extended+0x26f/0x340 mm/truncate.c:850 > > ext4_alloc_file_blocks+0x4ad/0x720 fs/ext4/extents.c:4545 > > ext4_do_fallocate fs/ext4/extents.c:4694 [inline] > > ext4_fallocate+0x2b8/0x660 fs/ext4/extents.c:4750 > > vfs_fallocate+0x410/0x450 fs/open.c:338 > > ksys_fallocate fs/open.c:362 [inline] > > __do_sys_fallocate fs/open.c:367 [inline] > > __se_sys_fallocate fs/open.c:365 [inline] > > __x64_sys_fallocate+0x7a/0xd0 fs/open.c:365 > > x64_sys_call+0x2b88/0x2fb0 arch/x86/include/generated/asm/syscalls_64.h:286 > > do_syscall_x64 arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c:63 [inline] > > do_syscall_64+0xd0/0x1a0 arch/x86/entry/syscall_64.c:94 > > entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x77/0x7f ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [syzbot] [mm?] KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended 2025-05-12 18:32 ` Jann Horn @ 2025-05-12 20:51 ` Marco Elver 2025-05-13 16:42 ` Jann Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Marco Elver @ 2025-05-12 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jann Horn Cc: syzkaller, syzbot, akpm, baolin.wang, hughd, linux-kernel, linux-mm, syzkaller-bugs On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 20:33, 'Jann Horn' via syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 7:44 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 9:52 AM syzbot > > <syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com> wrote: > > > HEAD commit: 01f95500a162 Merge tag 'uml-for-linux-6.15-rc6' of git://g.. > > > git tree: upstream > > > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17abbb68580000 > > > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=6154604431d9aaf9 > > > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=189d4742d07e937d68ea > > > compiler: Debian clang version 20.1.2 (++20250402124445+58df0ef89dd6-1~exp1~20250402004600.97), Debian LLD 20.1.2 > > [...] > > > IMPORTANT: if you fix the issue, please add the following tag to the commit: > > > Reported-by: syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com > > > > > > ================================================================== > > > BUG: KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended > > > > I think this is a problem with the KCSAN implementation. > > > > This is a race between writing to a userspace-owned page and reading > > from a userspace-owned page. > > > > This kind of pattern should be fairly trivial to trigger: If userspace > > tells the kernel to read from a GUP'd page or pagecache on one thread, > > and simultaneously tells the kernel to write to the same page on > > another thread, we'll get a data race. This is not really a kernel > > data race; it is more like a userspace race whose memory accesses > > happen to go through the kernel. > > > > So I think the fix would be for KCSAN to ignore anything in such > > pages. The hard part is, I'm not sure how to tell what kind of page > > we're dealing with from the kernel, some MM people might know... > > Or alternatively, if we really do want data_race() operations around > any memset() or memcpy() on userspace-controlled pages, I guess we'd > have to pepper a lot of those around the kernel. > > Also, I didn't really think about some of what I wrote here - we > certainly wouldn't want to ignore unannotated accesses to some struct > located in pagecache that userspace can concurrently write to. > > Maybe it would actually make sense to do the opposite of what I said > to some extent, special-case userspace-mapped pages such that KCSAN > _always_ alerts on plain access to them... > > > distinguishing normal pagecache/anon pages from other pages might be > > doable, but I guess it probably gets hard when thinking about > > driver-allocated pages that were mapped into userspace vs > > driver-allocated pages that are used internally in the driver... There have been cases where user space was doing something unsafe, and KCSAN caught it. While technically it's user space's bug to keep, KCSAN is still telling us something's wrong here. In the past we'd just ignore these bugs (never release them from syzbot), but I think we recently changed the rules for some of these to be sent to the mailing list. They can safely be ignored if deemed "user space is doing something stupid". I do think we want to surface such issues in one-off testing scenarios. However, in the fuzzing/CI context it's not so helpful, so we might need a way to suppress them. If there's a way to tell by looking at the stacktrace, we could teach syzbot to ignore such data races entirely. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [syzbot] [mm?] KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended 2025-05-12 20:51 ` Marco Elver @ 2025-05-13 16:42 ` Jann Horn 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Jann Horn @ 2025-05-13 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marco Elver Cc: syzkaller, syzbot, akpm, baolin.wang, hughd, linux-kernel, linux-mm, syzkaller-bugs On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 10:52 PM Marco Elver <elver@google.com> wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 20:33, 'Jann Horn' via syzkaller-bugs > <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 7:44 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 9:52 AM syzbot > > > <syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com> wrote: > > > > HEAD commit: 01f95500a162 Merge tag 'uml-for-linux-6.15-rc6' of git://g.. > > > > git tree: upstream > > > > console output: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/log.txt?x=17abbb68580000 > > > > kernel config: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/x/.config?x=6154604431d9aaf9 > > > > dashboard link: https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=189d4742d07e937d68ea > > > > compiler: Debian clang version 20.1.2 (++20250402124445+58df0ef89dd6-1~exp1~20250402004600.97), Debian LLD 20.1.2 > > > [...] > > > > IMPORTANT: if you fix the issue, please add the following tag to the commit: > > > > Reported-by: syzbot+189d4742d07e937d68ea@syzkaller.appspotmail.com > > > > > > > > ================================================================== > > > > BUG: KCSAN: data-race in copy_page_from_iter_atomic / pagecache_isize_extended > > > > > > I think this is a problem with the KCSAN implementation. > > > > > > This is a race between writing to a userspace-owned page and reading > > > from a userspace-owned page. > > > > > > This kind of pattern should be fairly trivial to trigger: If userspace > > > tells the kernel to read from a GUP'd page or pagecache on one thread, > > > and simultaneously tells the kernel to write to the same page on > > > another thread, we'll get a data race. This is not really a kernel > > > data race; it is more like a userspace race whose memory accesses > > > happen to go through the kernel. > > > > > > So I think the fix would be for KCSAN to ignore anything in such > > > pages. The hard part is, I'm not sure how to tell what kind of page > > > we're dealing with from the kernel, some MM people might know... > > > > Or alternatively, if we really do want data_race() operations around > > any memset() or memcpy() on userspace-controlled pages, I guess we'd > > have to pepper a lot of those around the kernel. > > > > Also, I didn't really think about some of what I wrote here - we > > certainly wouldn't want to ignore unannotated accesses to some struct > > located in pagecache that userspace can concurrently write to. > > > > Maybe it would actually make sense to do the opposite of what I said > > to some extent, special-case userspace-mapped pages such that KCSAN > > _always_ alerts on plain access to them... > > > > > distinguishing normal pagecache/anon pages from other pages might be > > > doable, but I guess it probably gets hard when thinking about > > > driver-allocated pages that were mapped into userspace vs > > > driver-allocated pages that are used internally in the driver... > > There have been cases where user space was doing something unsafe, and > KCSAN caught it. While technically it's user space's bug to keep, > KCSAN is still telling us something's wrong here. > > In the past we'd just ignore these bugs (never release them from > syzbot), but I think we recently changed the rules for some of these > to be sent to the mailing list. They can safely be ignored if deemed > "user space is doing something stupid". > > I do think we want to surface such issues in one-off testing > scenarios. However, in the fuzzing/CI context it's not so helpful, so > we might need a way to suppress them. If there's a way to tell by > looking at the stacktrace, we could teach syzbot to ignore such data > races entirely. Hmm. I think it probably requires a kernel config flag then, I don't think you can easily filter by stacktrace. In fuzzing builds you could maybe do some basic checks on the folio to see if it's pagecache, an anon folio, or a folio mapped into userspace... that would filter out _most_ but not all cases. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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