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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/2] rust: mm: add abstractions for mm_struct and vm_area_struct
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:05:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez20pcWiHXCKWv74cw-CDjeMrO+kcbZtmsgRo=7+Yxzspg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez3gXicVYXiPsQDmYuPSsKMbES2KRQDk+0ANWSS0zDkqSw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:01 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:56 PM Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
> > These abstractions allow you to manipulate vmas. Rust Binder will uses
> > these in a few different ways.
> >
> > In the mmap implementation, a VmAreaNew will be provided to the mmap
> > call which allows it to modify the vma in ways that are only okay during
> > initial setup. This is the case where the most methods are available.
> >
> > However, Rust Binder needs to insert and remove pages from the vma as
> > time passes. When incoming messages arrive, pages may need to be
> > inserted if space is missing, and in this case that is done by using a
> > stashed ARef<Mm> and calling mmget_not_zero followed by mmap_write_lock
> > followed by vma_lookup followed by vm_insert_page. In this case, since
> > mmap_write_lock is used, the VmAreaMut type will be in use.
>
> FYI, the way the C binder implementation uses vma_lookup() and
> vm_insert_page() is not very idiomatic. The standard way of
> implementing binder_alloc_free_page() would be to use something like
> unmap_mapping_range() instead of using
> vma_lookup()+zap_page_range_single(); though to set that up, you'd
> have to create one inode per binder file, maybe with something like
> the DRM subsystem's drm_fs_inode_new(). And instead of having
> binder_install_single_page(), the standard way would be to let
> binder_vm_fault() install PTEs lazily on fault. That way you'd never
> have to take mmap locks or grab MM references yourself.

Let me know if you think it would be helpful to see a prototype of
that in C - I think I can cobble that together, but doing it nicely
will require some work to convert at least some of the binder_alloc
locking to mutexes, and some more work to switch the ->f_mapping of
the binder file or something like that. (I guess modeling that in Rust
might be a bit of a pain though...)


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-08 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-10 12:56 [PATCH v6 0/2] Rust support for mm_struct, vm_area_struct, and mmap for miscdevice Alice Ryhl
2024-10-10 12:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] rust: mm: add abstractions for mm_struct and vm_area_struct Alice Ryhl
2024-10-13  0:16   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-14  9:33     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-08 19:01   ` Jann Horn
2024-11-08 20:05     ` Jann Horn [this message]
2024-11-11 11:41     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-11 16:50       ` Jann Horn
2024-11-12 12:12         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-12 12:58           ` Jann Horn
2024-11-12 13:48             ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-12 18:06               ` Jann Horn
2024-10-10 12:56 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] rust: miscdevice: add mmap support Alice Ryhl

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