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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Carlos Llamas" <cmllamas@google.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] rust_binder: check ownership before using vma
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 21:25:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez1vuJMmVyFw9BLePaMskOJ0ig3LwZw5FL34RFAjqyOW5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLghCCAvOi+xRtPnD4ToQmyignjkn-PJ6xG6Y1DAUHgBKVA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 9:15 PM Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 5:55 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 3:22 PM Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
> > > When installing missing pages (or zapping them), Rust Binder will look
> > > up the vma in the mm by address, and then call vm_insert_page (or
> > > zap_page_range_single). However, if the vma is closed and replaced with
> > > a different vma at the same address, this can lead to Rust Binder
> > > installing pages into the wrong vma.
> > >
> > > By installing the page into a writable vma, it becomes possible to write
> > > to your own binder pages, which are normally read-only. Although you're
> > > not supposed to be able to write to those pages, the intent behind the
> > > design of Rust Binder is that even if you get that ability, it should not
> > > lead to anything bad. Unfortunately, due to another bug, that is not the
> > > case.
> > >
> > > To fix this, I will store a pointer in vm_private_data and check that
> > > the vma returned by vma_lookup() has the right vm_ops and
> > > vm_private_data before trying to use the vma. This should ensure that
> > > Rust Binder will refuse to interact with any other VMA. I will follow up
> > > this patch with more vma abstractions to avoid this unsafe access to
> > > vm_ops and vm_private_data, but for now I'd like to start with the
> > > simplest possible fix.
> >
> > This sounds good to me.
> > (Userspace could still trick Rust Binder into accessing the VMA at the
> > wrong offset, but nothing will go wrong in that case.)
>
> Vma is tricky stuff.

Well, they try to give userspace a lot of flexibility, and then things
like the rmap are supposed to abstract away this complexity so that
normal drivers don't have to deal with this complexity...

> I think if I add the vm_ops->close callback this one isn't possible anymore?

Yeah. (Or you could explicitly check that vma_pgoff_offset(vma,
virtual_address) returns the expected index. But either way, from a
security perspective it shouldn't really matter.)


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-17 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-17 14:22 [PATCH 0/2] Fix VMA confusion in Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 14:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] rust_binder: check ownership before using vma Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 15:13   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-17 20:12     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 20:24       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-17 20:36       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-17 16:54   ` Jann Horn
2026-02-17 20:15     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 20:25       ` Jann Horn [this message]
2026-02-17 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] rust_binder: avoid reading the written value in offsets array Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 16:35   ` Jann Horn
2026-02-17 20:03     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 21:17   ` kernel test robot

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