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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
	 Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 18:04:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez0RKgQwpE07tZ8WcfH5XCeZ26wVOZa26HdYjADzVbHbgw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <368b0ca0-605e-4d2b-b12e-c24b1734d1c2@lucifer.local>

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 7:36 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:53:43PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > For comparison, personality flags are explicitly supposed to persist
> > across execve, but they can be dangerous (stuff like READ_IMPLIES_EXEC
> > and ADDR_NO_RANDOMIZE), so we have PER_CLEAR_ON_SETID which gets
> > cleared only if the execution is privileged. (Annoyingly, the
> > PER_CLEAR_ON_SETID handling is currently implemented separately for
> > each type of privileged execution we can have
> > [setuid/setgid/fscaps/selinux transition/apparmor transition/smack
> > transition], but I guess you could probably gate it on
> > bprm->secureexec instead...).
> >
> > It would be nice if you could either make this a property of the
> > mm_struct that does not persist across exec, or if that would break
> > your intended usecase, alternatively wipe it on privileged execution.
>
> The use case specifically requires persistence, unfortunately (we are still
> determining whether this makes sense however - it is by no means a 'done
> deal' that we're accepting this as a thing).
>
> I suppose wiping on privileged execution could be achieved by storing a
> mask of these permitted flags and clearing that mask in mm->def_flags at
> this point?

Oh, I see, we're already inheriting VM_NOHUGEPAGE on execve through
mm->def_flags, with the bitmask VM_INIT_DEF_MASK controlling what is
inheritable? Hmmmm... I guess turning hugepages _off_ should be
fine...

Yeah I guess I'd do this by adding another bitmask
VM_INIT_DEF_MASK_SECUREEXEC or something like that, and then applying
that bitmask on setuid execution.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-20 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-19 20:52 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: madvise: refactor madvise_populate() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 10:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 12:32         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SKIP_ERRORS process_madvise() flag Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_NO_ERROR_ON_UNMAPPED " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SET_FORK_EXEC_DEFAULT " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20  8:38   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 10:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 11:41       ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 13:39         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:11     ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 16:19       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:35         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 22:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-29 14:46     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 21:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour Jann Horn
2025-05-20  5:35   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:04     ` Jann Horn [this message]
2025-05-20 16:14       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 15:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 17:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:24     ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 19:21       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:42         ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 20:15           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:39       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 18:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:49     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 20:39       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 22:02         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21  4:21           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 16:28             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 16:49               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 17:39                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-22 13:05                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:21                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 20:53                     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-26 12:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 16:57               ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:39                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:25                   ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 18:40                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:45                       ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:32             ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-21 18:11               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 12:45               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:49                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 15:32               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-22 15:47                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21  2:16       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-22 12:12 ` Mike Rapoport

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