From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 18:04:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez0RKgQwpE07tZ8WcfH5XCeZ26wVOZa26HdYjADzVbHbgw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <368b0ca0-605e-4d2b-b12e-c24b1734d1c2@lucifer.local>
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 7:36 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:53:43PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > For comparison, personality flags are explicitly supposed to persist
> > across execve, but they can be dangerous (stuff like READ_IMPLIES_EXEC
> > and ADDR_NO_RANDOMIZE), so we have PER_CLEAR_ON_SETID which gets
> > cleared only if the execution is privileged. (Annoyingly, the
> > PER_CLEAR_ON_SETID handling is currently implemented separately for
> > each type of privileged execution we can have
> > [setuid/setgid/fscaps/selinux transition/apparmor transition/smack
> > transition], but I guess you could probably gate it on
> > bprm->secureexec instead...).
> >
> > It would be nice if you could either make this a property of the
> > mm_struct that does not persist across exec, or if that would break
> > your intended usecase, alternatively wipe it on privileged execution.
>
> The use case specifically requires persistence, unfortunately (we are still
> determining whether this makes sense however - it is by no means a 'done
> deal' that we're accepting this as a thing).
>
> I suppose wiping on privileged execution could be achieved by storing a
> mask of these permitted flags and clearing that mask in mm->def_flags at
> this point?
Oh, I see, we're already inheriting VM_NOHUGEPAGE on execve through
mm->def_flags, with the bitmask VM_INIT_DEF_MASK controlling what is
inheritable? Hmmmm... I guess turning hugepages _off_ should be
fine...
Yeah I guess I'd do this by adding another bitmask
VM_INIT_DEF_MASK_SECUREEXEC or something like that, and then applying
that bitmask on setuid execution.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-20 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-19 20:52 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: madvise: refactor madvise_populate() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 10:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 10:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 12:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SKIP_ERRORS process_madvise() flag Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_NO_ERROR_ON_UNMAPPED " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_SET_FORK_EXEC_DEFAULT " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 8:38 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 10:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 11:41 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-05-20 13:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:11 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 22:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-29 14:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 20:52 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm/madvise: add PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-19 21:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] add process_madvise() flags to modify behaviour Jann Horn
2025-05-20 5:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 16:04 ` Jann Horn [this message]
2025-05-20 16:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 15:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 17:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:24 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 19:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:42 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-20 20:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 18:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 18:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 19:49 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-20 20:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-20 22:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 4:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 16:28 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 16:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 17:39 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-22 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 20:53 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-26 12:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 16:57 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:25 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 18:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 18:45 ` Usama Arif
2025-05-21 17:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-21 18:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 12:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 13:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-22 15:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-22 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-21 2:16 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-22 12:12 ` Mike Rapoport
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