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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: introduce new .mmap_proto() f_op callback
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 23:44:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez04yOEVx1ekzOChARDDBZzAKwet8PEoPM4Ln3_rk91AzQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1bf4b452cc10281ef831c5e38ce16f09923f8c5.1746040540.git.lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>

On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 9:54 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> Provide a means by which drivers can specify which fields of those
> permitted to be changed should be altered to prior to mmap()'ing a
> range (which may either result from a merge or from mapping an entirely new
> VMA).
>
> Doing so is substantially safer than the existing .mmap() calback which
> provides unrestricted access to the part-constructed VMA and permits
> drivers and file systems to do 'creative' things which makes it hard to
> reason about the state of the VMA after the function returns.
>
> The existing .mmap() callback's freedom has caused a great deal of issues,
> especially in error handling, as unwinding the mmap() state has proven to
> be non-trivial and caused significant issues in the past, for instance
> those addressed in commit 5de195060b2e ("mm: resolve faulty mmap_region()
> error path behaviour").
>
> It also necessitates a second attempt at merge once the .mmap() callback
> has completed, which has caused issues in the past, is awkward, adds
> overhead and is difficult to reason about.
>
> The .mmap_proto() callback eliminates this requirement, as we can update
> fields prior to even attempting the first merge. It is safer, as we heavily
> restrict what can actually be modified, and being invoked very early in the
> mmap() process, error handling can be performed safely with very little
> unwinding of state required.

I wonder if this requires adjustments to the existing users of
call_mmap() that use call_mmap() for forwarding mmap operations to
some kind of backing file. In particular fuse_passthrough_mmap(),
which I think can operate on fairly arbitrary user-supplied backing
files (for context, I think fuse_backing_open() allows root to just
provide an fd to be used as backing file).

I guess the easiest approach would be to add bailouts to those if an
->mmap_proto handler exists for now, and revisit this if we ever want
to use ->mmap_proto for more normal types of files?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-30 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-30 19:54 [RFC PATCH 0/3] eliminate mmap() retry merge, add .mmap_proto hook Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: introduce new .mmap_proto() f_op callback Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 21:44   ` Jann Horn [this message]
2025-05-01 10:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 21:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-01 10:23     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-01 12:17       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-01 13:00         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-01 13:51     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-01 13:57       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-05 13:29     ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-06 10:01       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: secretmem: convert to .mmap_proto() hook Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:54 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm/vma: remove mmap() retry merge Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] eliminate mmap() retry merge, add .mmap_proto hook Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 19:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-30 21:29 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-01 10:27   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-01 14:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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