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From: Sha Zhengju <handai.szj@gmail.com>
To: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	anton.vorontsov@linaro.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] memcg: provide root figures from system totals
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:58:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFj3OHWm_GjLFwNEE=D69DR-YSF25AZvKTLHpyHq7aYDi12b0g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <513721A5.6080401@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> (2013/03/06 19:52), Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On 03/06/2013 02:45 PM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
>>> (2013/03/06 17:30), Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>> On 03/06/2013 04:27 AM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
>>>>> (2013/03/05 22:10), Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>>>> + case _MEMSWAP: {
>>>>>> +         struct sysinfo i;
>>>>>> +         si_swapinfo(&i);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +         return ((memcg_read_root_rss() +
>>>>>> +         atomic_long_read(&vm_stat[NR_FILE_PAGES])) << PAGE_SHIFT) +
>>>>>> +         i.totalswap - i.freeswap;
>>>>>
>>>>> How swapcache is handled ? ...and How kmem works with this calc ?
>>>>>
>>>> I am ignoring kmem, because we don't account kmem for the root cgroup
>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Setting the limit is invalid, and we don't account until the limit is
>>>> set. Then it will be 0, always.
>>>>
>>>> For swapcache, I am hoping that totalswap - freeswap will cover
>>>> everything swap related. If you think I am wrong, please enlighten me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> i.totalswap - i.freeswap = # of used swap entries.
>>>
>>> SwapCache can be rss and used swap entry at the same time.
>>>
>>
>> Well, yes, but the rss entries would be accounted for in get_mm_rss(),
>> won't they ?
>>
>> What am I missing ?
>
>
> I think the correct caluculation is
>
>   Sum of all RSS + All file caches + (i.total_swap - i.freeswap - # of mapped SwapCache)
>
>
> In the patch, mapped SwapCache is counted as both of rss and swap.
>

After a quick look, swapcache is counted as file pages and meanwhile
use a swap entry at the same time(__add_to{delete_from}_swap_cache()).
Even though, I think we still do not need to exclude swapcache out,
because it indeed uses two copy of resource: one is swap entry, one is
cache, so the usage should count both of them in.

What I think it matters is that swapcache may be counted as both file
pages and rss(if it's a process's anonymous page), which we need to
subtract # of swapcache to avoid double-counting. But it isn't always
so: a shmem/tmpfs page may use swapcache and be counted as file pages
but not a rss, then we can not subtract swapcache... Is there anything
I lost?

> BTW, how about
>
>   Sum of all LRU + (i.total_swap - i.freeswap - # of all SwapCache)
> ?
>
> Thanks,
> -Kame
>
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>



-- 
Thanks,
Sha

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-13  6:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-05 13:10 [PATCH v2 0/5] bypass root memcg charges if no memcgs are possible Glauber Costa
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] memcg: make nocpu_base available for non hotplug Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  0:04   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-19 11:07   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] memcg: provide root figures from system totals Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  0:27   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06  8:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-06 10:45       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06 10:52         ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-06 10:59           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-13  6:58             ` Sha Zhengju [this message]
2013-03-13  9:15               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-13  9:59                 ` Sha Zhengju
2013-03-14  0:03                   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06 10:50       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-19 12:46   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 12:55     ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  7:03       ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:03         ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  8:08           ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:18             ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  8:34               ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:58                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  9:30                   ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-21  6:08                     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-20 16:40             ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-03-20  7:04     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] memcg: make it suck faster Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  0:46   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06  8:38     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-06 10:54       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-13  8:08   ` Sha Zhengju
2013-03-20  7:13     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-19 13:58   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  7:00     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:13       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] memcg: do not call page_cgroup_init at system_boot Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  1:07   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06  8:22     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-19 14:06   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] memcg: do not walk all the way to the root for memcg Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  1:08   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

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