From: Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
x86@kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Pavel Tatashin <pavel.tatashin@microsoft.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>, Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>,
Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>,
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David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/numa: instance all parsed numa node
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:40:11 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFgQCTtK7G9NPQgHa_gJkr8WLzYqagBVLaqBY7-w+tirX-+w-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AF3459B-28F2-425F-8E4B-40311DEF30C6@amacapital.net>
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:34 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 9, 2019, at 1:24 AM, Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:12 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Pingfan Liu wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 5:35 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >>>> It can and it does.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's the whole point why we bring up all CPUs in the 'nosmt' case and
> >>>> shut the siblings down again after setting CR4.MCE. Actually that's in fact
> >>>> a 'let's hope no MCE hits before that happened' approach, but that's all we
> >>>> can do.
> >>>>
> >>>> If we don't do that then the MCE broadcast can hit a CPU which has some
> >>>> firmware initialized state. The result can be a full system lockup, triple
> >>>> fault etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> So when the MCE hits a CPU which is still in the crashed kernel lala state,
> >>>> then all hell breaks lose.
> >>> Thank you for the comprehensive explain. With your guide, now, I have
> >>> a full understanding of the issue.
> >>>
> >>> But when I tried to add something to enable CR4.MCE in
> >>> crash_nmi_callback(), I realized that it is undo-able in some case (if
> >>> crashed, we will not ask an offline smt cpu to online), also it is
> >>> needless. "kexec -l/-p" takes the advantage of the cpu state in the
> >>> first kernel, where all logical cpu has CR4.MCE=1.
> >>>
> >>> So kexec is exempt from this bug if the first kernel already do it.
> >>
> >> No. If the MCE broadcast is handled by a CPU which is stuck in the old
> >> kernel stop loop, then it will execute on the old kernel and eventually run
> >> into the memory corruption which crashed the old one.
> >>
> > Yes, you are right. Stuck cpu may execute the old do_machine_check()
> > code. But I just found out that we have
> > do_machine_check()->__mc_check_crashing_cpu() to against this case.
> >
> > And I think the MCE issue with nr_cpus is not closely related with
> > this series, can
> > be a separated issue. I had question whether Andy will take it, if
> > not, I am glad to do it.
> >
> >
>
> Go for it. I’m not familiar enough with the SMP boot stuff that I would be able to do it any faster than you. I’ll gladly help review it.
I had sent out a patch to fix maxcpus "[PATCH] smp: force all cpu to
boot once under maxcpus option"
But for the case of nrcpus, I think things will not be so easy due to
percpu area, and I think it may take a quite different way.
Thanks,
Pingfan
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-10 8:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-05 4:15 [PATCH 1/2] x86/numa: carve node online semantics out of alloc_node_data() Pingfan Liu
[not found] ` <1562300143-11671-2-git-send-email-kernelfans@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.21.1907072133310.3648@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
2019-07-08 8:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/numa: instance all parsed numa node Pingfan Liu
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.21.1907081125300.3648@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
2019-07-08 17:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-09 4:26 ` Pingfan Liu
2019-07-09 4:16 ` Pingfan Liu
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.21.1907090810490.1961@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
[not found] ` <CAFgQCTui7D6_FQ_v_ijj6k_=+TQzQ3PaGvzxd6p+XEGjQ2S6jw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-07-09 13:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-10 8:40 ` Pingfan Liu [this message]
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