From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua0-f199.google.com (mail-ua0-f199.google.com [209.85.217.199]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3216B0005 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ua0-f199.google.com with SMTP id r6-v6so5512471uan.7 for ; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 12:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-sor-f65.google.com (mail-sor-f65.google.com. [209.85.220.65]) by mx.google.com with SMTPS id b56-v6sor1904706uaa.65.2018.07.02.12.16.44 for (Google Transport Security); Mon, 02 Jul 2018 12:16:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180629194117.01b2d31e805808eee5c97b4d@linux-foundation.org> References: <20180627160800.3dc7f9ee41c0badbf7342520@linux-foundation.org> <20180628124039.8a42ab5e2994fb2876ff4f75@linux-foundation.org> <20180629194117.01b2d31e805808eee5c97b4d@linux-foundation.org> From: Evgenii Stepanov Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:16:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Andrew Morton Cc: Andrey Konovalov , Andrey Ryabinin , Alexander Potapenko , Dmitry Vyukov , Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Christoph Lameter , Mark Rutland , Nick Desaulniers , Marc Zyngier , Dave Martin , Ard Biesheuvel , "Eric W . Biederman" , Ingo Molnar , Paul Lawrence , Geert Uytterhoeven , Arnd Bergmann , "Kirill A . Shutemov" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Kate Stewart , Mike Rapoport , kasan-dev , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linux ARM , linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org, Linux Memory Management List , Linux Kbuild mailing list , Kostya Serebryany , Lee Smith , Ramana Radhakrishnan , Jacob Bramley , Ruben Ayrapetyan , Jann Horn , Mark Brand , Chintan Pandya Looking at a live Android device under load, slab (according to /proc/meminfo) + kernel stack take 8-10% available RAM (~350MB). Kasan's overhead of 2x - 3x on top of it is not insignificant. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:45:08 +0200 Andrey Konovalov wrote: > >> >> What kind of memory consumption testing would you like to see? >> > >> > Well, 100kb or so is a teeny amount on virtually any machine. I'm >> > assuming the savings are (much) more significant once the machine gets >> > loaded up and doing work? >> >> So with clean kernel after boot we get 40 kb memory usage. With KASAN >> it is ~120 kb, which is 200% overhead. With KHWASAN it's 50 kb, which >> is 25% overhead. This should approximately scale to any amounts of >> used slab memory. For example with 100 mb memory usage we would get >> +200 mb for KASAN and +25 mb with KHWASAN. (And KASAN also requires >> quarantine for better use-after-free detection). I can explicitly >> mention the overhead in %s in the changelog. >> >> If you think it makes sense, I can also make separate measurements >> with some workload. What kind of workload should I use? > > Whatever workload people were running when they encountered problems > with KASAN memory consumption ;) > > I dunno, something simple. `find / > /dev/null'? >