From: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Liu Shixin <liushixin2@huawei.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Sachin Sant <sachinp@linux.ibm.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10] mm: vmscan: try to reclaim swapcache pages if no swap space
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:30:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF8kJuO=Y6frTxMbR92XhzuC8Z8ALDWFLq2Mj3t0j+C9YXOaJw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZVyp5eETLTT0PCYj@tiehlicka>
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 5:00 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> > However, in swapcache_only mode, the scan count still increased when scan
> > non-swapcache pages because there are large number of non-swapcache pages
> > and rare swapcache pages in swapcache_only mode, and if the non-swapcache
> > is skipped and do not count, the scan of pages in isolate_lru_folios() can
> > eventually lead to hung task, just as Sachin reported [2].
>
> I find this paragraph really confusing! I guess what you meant to say is
> that a real swapcache_only is problematic because it can end up not
> making any progress, correct?
>
> AFAIU you have addressed that problem by making swapcache_only anon LRU
> specific, right? That would be certainly more robust as you can still
> reclaim from file LRUs. I cannot say I like that because swapcache_only
> is a bit confusing and I do not think we want to grow more special
That is my feeling as well. I don't like to have too many special
purposes modes either. It makes the whole process much harder to
reason. The comment seems to suggest it is not effective in some
situations. I am wondering if we can address that situation more
directly without the special mode. At the same time I am not very
familiar with the reclaim code path yet. I need to learn more about
this problem space to articulate my thoughts better . I can dig in
more, I might ask a lot of silly questions.
Chris
> purpose reclaim types. Would it be possible/reasonable to instead put
> swapcache pages on the file LRU instead?
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-23 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-21 9:06 Liu Shixin
2023-11-21 13:00 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-22 6:41 ` Liu Shixin
2023-11-22 6:44 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-22 6:57 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-22 8:55 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-22 8:52 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-22 10:09 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-22 10:39 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-22 13:19 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-22 20:13 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-23 6:15 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-24 16:30 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-27 2:34 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-27 7:42 ` Chris Li
2023-11-27 8:11 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-27 8:22 ` Chris Li
2023-11-27 21:31 ` Minchan Kim
2023-11-27 21:56 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-28 3:19 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-28 3:27 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-28 4:03 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-28 4:13 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-28 5:37 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-28 5:41 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-28 5:52 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-28 22:37 ` Minchan Kim
2023-11-29 3:12 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-29 10:22 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-30 8:07 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-28 23:45 ` Chris Li
2023-11-27 9:10 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-28 1:31 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-28 10:16 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-28 22:45 ` Minchan Kim
2023-11-28 23:05 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-28 23:15 ` Minchan Kim
2023-11-29 10:17 ` Michal Hocko
2023-12-13 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2023-12-15 5:05 ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-15 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-23 17:30 ` Chris Li [this message]
2023-11-23 17:19 ` Chris Li
2023-11-28 1:59 ` Liu Shixin
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