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From: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
To: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>
Cc: "Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Wei Xu" <weixugc@google.com>, "Yu Zhao" <yuzhao@google.com>,
	"Greg Thelen" <gthelen@google.com>,
	"Chun-Tse Shao" <ctshao@google.com>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Brain Geffon" <bgeffon@google.com>,
	"Minchan Kim" <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Huang Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"Nhat Pham" <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Kairui Song" <kasong@tencent.com>,
	"Zhongkun He" <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>,
	"Kemeng Shi" <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	"Barry Song" <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] RFC: zswap tree use xarray instead of RB tree
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 02:26:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF8kJuNvxZgMvW+7gN1anpASKXdaPfYi=0pSfmJftHkzXnV-ag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b2f8385-735b-4341-b521-a42c9a9cb04c@bytedance.com>

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:19 PM Chengming Zhou
<zhouchengming@bytedance.com> wrote:
>
> On 2024/1/19 12:59, Chris Li wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:35 PM Chengming Zhou
> > <zhouchengming@bytedance.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>>                     mm-stable           zswap-split-tree    zswap-xarray
> >>>>> real                1m10.442s           1m4.157s            1m9.962s
> >>>>> user                17m48.232s          17m41.477s          17m45.887s
> >>>>> sys                 8m13.517s           5m2.226s            7m59.305s
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looks like the contention of concurrency is still there, I haven't
> >>>>> look into the code yet, will review it later.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the quick test. Interesting to see the sys usage drop for
> >>> the xarray case even with the spin lock.
> >>> Not sure if the 13 second saving is statistically significant or not.
> >>>
> >>> We might need to have both xarray and split trees for the zswap. It is
> >>> likely removing the spin lock wouldn't be able to make up the 35%
> >>> difference. That is just my guess. There is only one way to find out.
> >>
> >> Yes, I totally agree with this! IMHO, concurrent zswap_store paths still
> >> have to contend for the xarray spinlock even though we would have converted
> >> the rb-tree to the xarray structure at last. So I think we should have both.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> BTW, do you have a script I can run to replicate your results?
> >
> > Hi Chengming,
> >
> > Thanks for your script.
> >
> >>
> >> ```
> >> #!/bin/bash
> >>
> >> testname="build-kernel-tmpfs"
> >> cgroup="/sys/fs/cgroup/$testname"
> >>
> >> tmpdir="/tmp/vm-scalability-tmp"
> >> workdir="$tmpdir/$testname"
> >>
> >> memory_max="$((2 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024))"
> >>
> >> linux_src="/root/zcm/linux-6.6.tar.xz"
> >> NR_TASK=32
> >>
> >> swapon ~/zcm/swapfile
> >
> > How big is your swapfile here?
>
> The swapfile is big enough here, I use a 50GB swapfile.

Thanks,

>
> >
> > It seems you have only one swapfile there. That can explain the contention.
> > Have you tried multiple swapfiles for the same test?
> > That should reduce the contention without using your patch.
> Do you mean to have many 64MB swapfiles to swapon at the same time?

64MB is too small. There are limits to MAX_SWAPFILES. It is less than
(32 - n) swap files.
If you want to use 50G swap space, you can have MAX_SWAPFILES, each
swapfile 50GB / MAX_SWAPFILES.

> Maybe it's feasible to test,

Of course it is testable, I am curious to see the test results.

> I'm not sure how swapout will choose.

It will rotate through the same priority swap files first.
swapfile.c: get_swap_pages().

> But in our usecase, we normally have only one swapfile.

Is there a good reason why you can't use more than one swapfile?
One swapfile will not take the full advantage of the existing code.
Even if you split the zswap trees within a swapfile. With only one
swapfile, you will still be having lock contention on "(struct
swap_info_struct).lock".
It is one lock per swapfile.
Using more than one swap file should get you better results.

Chris


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-19 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-18  3:05 Chris Li
2024-01-18  3:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: zswap.c: add xarray tree to zswap Chris Li
2024-01-18  6:20   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18 13:52     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-18 16:59       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18 18:25         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-19  5:28           ` Chris Li
2024-01-19 19:30             ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-19  5:24     ` Chris Li
2024-01-19 19:29       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-19 20:04         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-19 21:41           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-19 22:05             ` Chris Li
2024-01-19 22:08               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18  3:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: zswap.c: remove RB tree Chris Li
2024-01-18  6:35   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18 19:35     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-19  5:49       ` Chris Li
2024-01-19 19:37         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-19  5:43     ` Chris Li
2024-01-19 19:36       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-19 21:31         ` Chris Li
2024-01-19 21:44           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18  6:01 ` [PATCH 0/2] RFC: zswap tree use xarray instead of " Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18  6:39   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18  6:57     ` Chengming Zhou
2024-01-18  7:02       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18  7:19         ` Chris Li
2024-01-18  7:35           ` Chengming Zhou
2024-01-19  4:59             ` Chris Li
2024-01-19  6:18               ` Chengming Zhou
2024-01-19 10:26                 ` Chris Li [this message]
2024-01-19 11:12                   ` Chengming Zhou
2024-01-19 11:59                     ` Chris Li
2024-01-18  6:48   ` Christopher Li
2024-01-18  7:05     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18  7:28       ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 17:14         ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18 14:48       ` Johannes Weiner
2024-01-18 18:59     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-19  5:13       ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 18:01 ` Nhat Pham
2024-01-19  5:14   ` Chris Li

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