From: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [RFCv3 2/2] dma-buf: add helpers for sharing attacher constraints with dma-parms
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:19:51 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGuF8j7CpPmKpPhqmc_Rc8qDDSMPSpPfvACsGShnaCRAxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150129223158.GF26493@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 05:18:33PM -0500, Rob Clark wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Now, if we're going to do the "more clever" thing you mention above,
>> > that rather negates the point of this two-part patch set, which is to
>> > provide the union of the DMA capabilities of all users. A union in
>> > that case is no longer sane as we'd be tailoring the SG lists to each
>> > user.
>>
>> It doesn't really negate.. a different sg list representing the same
>> physical memory cannot suddenly make the buffer physically contiguous
>> (from the perspective of memory)..
>>
>> (unless we are not on the same page here, so to speak)
>
> If we are really only interested in the "physically contiguous" vs
> "scattered" differentiation, why can't this be just a simple flag?
I'd be fine with that.. I was trying to make it a bit less of a point
solution, but maybe trying to be too generic is not worth it..
There is apparently some hw which has iommu's but small # of tlb
entries, and would prefer partially contiguous buffers. But that
isn't a hard constraint, and maybe shouldn't be solved w/
max_segment_count. And I'm not sure how common that is.
> I think I know where you're coming from on that distinction - most
> GPUs can cope with their buffers being discontiguous in memory, but
> scanout and capture hardware tends to need contiguous buffers.
>
> My guess is that you're looking for some way that a GPU driver could
> allocate a buffer, which can then be imported into the scanout
> hardware - and when it is, the underlying backing store is converted
> to a contiguous buffer. Is that the usage scenario you're thinking
> of?
Pretty much.. and maybe a few slight permutations on that involving
cameras / video codecs / etc. But the really-really common case is
gpu (with mmu/iommu) + display (without). Just solving this problem
would be a really good first step.
BR,
-R
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-29 23:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-27 8:25 [RFCv3 1/2] device: add dma_params->max_segment_count Sumit Semwal
2015-01-27 8:25 ` [RFCv3 2/2] dma-buf: add helpers for sharing attacher constraints with dma-parms Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 14:16 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2015-01-29 14:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 15:30 ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 15:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 16:55 ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-29 18:52 ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 19:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 22:18 ` Rob Clark
2015-01-29 22:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-01-29 23:19 ` Rob Clark [this message]
2015-02-02 16:54 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-02 20:30 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-02 21:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02 22:36 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 7:50 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 7:46 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 7:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 12:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 13:00 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 13:28 ` Christian Gmeiner
2015-02-03 14:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:25 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:04 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 14:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 15:31 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 16:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 16:22 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 16:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 20:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 21:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 22:07 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-04 0:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 16:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 17:35 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 20:08 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-03 21:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-02-03 15:25 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 15:19 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-03 14:44 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-03 14:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-02 5:53 ` Sumit Semwal
2015-02-11 8:28 ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11 11:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-11 11:23 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 12:56 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-02-11 13:30 ` Rob Clark
2015-02-11 12:20 ` Marek Szyprowski
2015-02-11 16:23 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-05 14:41 ` Sumit Semwal
2015-06-03 6:39 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Hans Verkuil
2015-06-03 8:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-06-03 9:37 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-06-04 5:24 ` Sumit Semwal
2015-01-28 14:09 ` [RFCv3 1/2] device: add dma_params->max_segment_count Marek Szyprowski
2015-06-03 6:13 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Hans Verkuil
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