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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 07/13] KVM: guest_memfd: Add flag to remove from direct map
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 16:29:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEvNRgHMOWfCRnkx7YJoAzNpBBOHCgvR5GHe66uHJX45WDT-YA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4f2a0297e38ac45e4438342ac2c882b91544acb.camel@intel.com>

"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com> writes:

> On Thu, 2026-01-22 at 14:47 -0800, Ackerley Tng wrote:
>>
>> There's no use case I can think of for unmapping TDX private memory
>> from the host direct map, but Sean's suggestion
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/aWpcDrGVLrZOqdcg@google.com/ won't even
>> let shared guest_memfd memory be unmapped from the direct map for TDX
>> VMs.
>
> Ah!
>
>>
>> Actually, does TDX's clflush that assumes presence in the direct map
>> apply only for private pages, or all pages?
>>
>> If TDX's clflush only happens for private pages, then we could
>> restore private pages to the direct map, and then we'd be safe even
>> for TDX?
>
> Yes, just private pages need the special treatment. But it will be much
> simpler to start with just blocking the option for TDX. A shared pages
> only mode could come later.
>
> In general I think we should try to break things up like this when we
> can. Kernel code is not set in stone, only ABI. I think it will lead to
> overall faster upstreaming, because the series' can be simpler.

I agree on splitting the feature up :), agree that simpler series are
better.

Perhaps just for my understanding,

+ shared pages => not in direct map => no TDX clflush
+ private pages => always in direct map => TDX performs clflush

(I could put pages back into the direct map while doing shared to
private conversions).

Is everything good then? Or does TDX code not apply the special
treatment, as in clflush only for private pages, as of now?


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14 13:45 [PATCH v9 00/13] Direct Map Removal Support for guest_memfd Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-14 13:45 ` [PATCH v9 01/13] set_memory: add folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map helpers Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-15 10:54   ` Huacai Chen
2026-01-15 11:03     ` [PATCH v9 01/13] set_memory: add folio_{zap, restore}_direct_map helpers Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-15 12:12   ` [PATCH v9 01/13] set_memory: add folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map helpers Heiko Carstens
2026-01-15 15:25     ` [PATCH v9 01/13] set_memory: add folio_{zap, restore}_direct_map helpers Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-15 15:55   ` [PATCH v9 01/13] set_memory: add folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map helpers Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-15 17:45     ` [PATCH v9 01/13] set_memory: add folio_{zap, restore}_direct_map helpers Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-15 20:05       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 21:07   ` [PATCH v9 01/13] set_memory: add folio_{zap,restore}_direct_map helpers Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 13:45 ` [PATCH v9 02/13] mm/gup: drop secretmem optimization from gup_fast_folio_allowed Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-15 20:04   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 21:40   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-16 14:55     ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-22  0:20       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 13:45 ` [PATCH v9 03/13] mm: introduce AS_NO_DIRECT_MAP Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-15 21:42   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 13:45 ` [PATCH v9 04/13] KVM: guest_memfd: Add stub for kvm_arch_gmem_invalidate Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-15 21:47   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 13:46 ` [PATCH v9 05/13] KVM: x86: define kvm_arch_gmem_supports_no_direct_map() Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-15 21:48   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 13:46 ` [PATCH v9 06/13] KVM: arm64: " Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-14 13:46 ` [PATCH v9 07/13] KVM: guest_memfd: Add flag to remove from direct map Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-15 20:00   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-16 14:56     ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-22 16:34       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-22 18:04         ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-22 20:30           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-22 20:40             ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-15 23:04   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 15:02     ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-16 15:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 15:41         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 17:32           ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-16 17:51           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 17:30     ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-16 17:51       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-22 16:44         ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-22 17:35           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-22 22:47             ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-23  0:01               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-28  0:29                 ` Ackerley Tng [this message]
2026-01-16  0:00   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 15:00     ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-16 15:34       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 17:28         ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-16 17:36           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 17:51             ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-16 18:10               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 18:16                 ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-22 18:37       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-22 18:47         ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-26 16:56         ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-28  0:21           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 13:46 ` [PATCH v9 08/13] KVM: selftests: load elf via bounce buffer Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-14 13:46 ` [PATCH v9 09/13] KVM: selftests: set KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD in vm_mem_add() if guest_memfd != -1 Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-15 19:39   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-16 15:00     ` Nikita Kalyazin
2026-01-14 13:47 ` [PATCH v9 10/13] KVM: selftests: Add guest_memfd based vm_mem_backing_src_types Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-14 13:47 ` [PATCH v9 11/13] KVM: selftests: cover GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_NO_DIRECT_MAP in existing selftests Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-14 13:47 ` [PATCH v9 12/13] KVM: selftests: stuff vm_mem_backing_src_type into vm_shape Kalyazin, Nikita
2026-01-14 13:47 ` [PATCH v9 13/13] KVM: selftests: Test guest execution from direct map removed gmem Kalyazin, Nikita

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