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From: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	 linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org,  mhiramat@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  paulmck@kernel.org,
	willy@infradead.org, surenb@google.com,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/8] uprobes: travers uprobe's consumer list locklessly under SRCU protection
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 10:35:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEf4Bza6SRP0ZTuOa=W8W3uM86DJKkGoTQ9itHxcdGWt1Su=-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzYE7+YgM7HMb-JceoC33f=irjHkj=5x46WaXdCcgTk4xg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 10:27 AM Andrii Nakryiko
<andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 9:19 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 08/30, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:21 PM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'll probably write another email (too late for me today), but I agree
> > > > that "avoid register_rwsem in handler_chain" is obviously a good goal,
> > > > lets discuss the possible cleanups or even fixlets later, when this
> > > > series is already applied.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sounds good. It seems like I'll need another revision due to missing
> > > include, so if there is any reasonably straightforward clean up we
> > > should do, I can just incorporate that into my series.
> >
> > I was thinking about another seq counter incremented in register(), so
> > that handler_chain() can detect the race with uprobe_register() and skip
> > unapply_uprobe() in this case. This is what Peter did in one of his series.
> > Still changes the current behaviour, but not too much.
>
> We could do that, but then worst case, when we do detect registration
> race, what do we do? We still have to do the same. So instead of
> polluting the logic with seq counter it's best to just codify the
> protocol and take advantage of that.
>
> But as you said, this all can/should be addressed as a follow up
> discussion. You mentioned some clean ups you wanted to do, let's
> discuss all that as part of that?
>
> >
> > But see below,
> >
> > > I still think it's fine, tbh.
> >
> > and perhaps you are right,
> >
> > > Which uprobe user violates this contract
> > > in the kernel?
> >
> > The only in-kernel user of UPROBE_HANDLER_REMOVE is perf, and it is fine.
> >
>
> Well, BPF program can accidentally trigger this as well, but that's a
> bug, we should fix it ASAP in the bpf tree.
>
>
> > But there are out-of-tree users, say systemtap, I have no idea if this
> > change can affect them.
> >
> > And in general, this change makes the API less "flexible".
>
> it maybe makes a weird and too-flexible case a bit more work to
> implement. Because if consumer want to be that flexible, they can
> still define filter that will be coordinated between filter() and
> handler() implementation.
>
> >
> > But once again, I agree that it would be better to apply your series first,
> > then add the fixes in (unlikely) case it breaks something.
>
> Yep, agreed, thanks! Will send a new version ASAP, so we have a common
> base to work on top of.
>
> >
> > But. Since you are going to send another version, may I ask you to add a
> > note into the changelog to explain that this patch assumes (and enforces)
> > the rule about handler/filter consistency?
>
> Yep, will do. I will also leave a comment next to the filter callback
> definition in uprobe_consumer about this.
>

Ok, I'm adding this:

diff --git a/include/linux/uprobes.h b/include/linux/uprobes.h
index 29c935b0d504..33236d689d60 100644
--- a/include/linux/uprobes.h
+++ b/include/linux/uprobes.h
@@ -29,6 +29,14 @@ struct page;
 #define MAX_URETPROBE_DEPTH            64

 struct uprobe_consumer {
+       /*
+        * handler() can return UPROBE_HANDLER_REMOVE to signal the need to
+        * unregister uprobe for current process. If UPROBE_HANDLER_REMOVE is
+        * returned, filter() callback has to be implemented as well and it
+        * should return false to "confirm" the decision to uninstall uprobe
+        * for the current process. If filter() is omitted or returns true,
+        * UPROBE_HANDLER_REMOVE is effectively ignored.
+        */
        int (*handler)(struct uprobe_consumer *self, struct pt_regs *regs);
        int (*ret_handler)(struct uprobe_consumer *self,
                                unsigned long func,


> >
> > Oleg.
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-03 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-29 18:37 [PATCH v4 0/8] uprobes: RCU-protected hot path optimizations Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] uprobes: revamp uprobe refcounting and lifetime management Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] uprobes: protected uprobe lifetime with SRCU Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] uprobes: get rid of enum uprobe_filter_ctx in uprobe filter callbacks Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] uprobes: travers uprobe's consumer list locklessly under SRCU protection Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 23:09   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-29 23:31     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-30 13:45       ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-30 14:31         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-30 15:44           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-30 20:20             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-30 20:43               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-31 16:19                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-02  9:14                   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-09-03 17:27                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-09-03 17:35                     ` Andrii Nakryiko [this message]
2024-09-03 18:27                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-03 18:25                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-31 17:25         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-01  9:24           ` Jiri Olsa
2024-08-30 14:18       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] perf/uprobe: split uprobe_unregister() Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] rbtree: provide rb_find_rcu() / rb_find_add_rcu() Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] uprobes: perform lockless SRCU-protected uprobes_tree lookup Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-29 18:37 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] uprobes: switch to RCU Tasks Trace flavor for better performance Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-30 17:41   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-30 17:55     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-08-30 20:36   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-30 10:24 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] uprobes: RCU-protected hot path optimizations Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-03 13:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-03 13:59     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-09-03 14:03       ` Peter Zijlstra

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