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From: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 linux-stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: Fix uninitialized output field for -EAGAIN race
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 11:54:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADrL8HVhMhG6_nSwLfVr4g8XpjA9xh+maLPrC1=jv+L6LNxxkA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23e2d207-58ac-49d3-b93e-4105a0624f9d@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 11:12 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 24.04.25 23:57, Peter Xu wrote:
> > While discussing some userfaultfd relevant issues recently, Andrea noticed
> > a potential ABI breakage with -EAGAIN on almost all userfaultfd ioctl()s.
>
> I guess we talk about e.g., "man UFFDIO_COPY" documentation:
>
> "The copy field is used by the kernel to return the number of bytes that
> was actually copied,  or an  error  (a  negated errno-style value).  The
> copy field is output-only; it is not read by the UFFDIO_COPY operation."
>
> I assume -EINVAL/-ESRCH/-EFAULT are excluded from that rule, because
> there is no sense in user-space trying again on these errors either way.
> Well, there are cases where we would store -EFAULT, when we receive it
> from mfill_atomic_copy().
>
> So if we store -EAGAIN to copy.copy it says "we didn't copy anything".
> (probably just storing 0 would have been better, but I am sure there was
> a reason to indicate negative errors in addition to returning an error)

IMHO, it makes more sense to store 0 than -EAGAIN (at least it will
mean that my userspace[1] won't break).

Userspace will need to know from where to restart the ioctl, and if we
put -EAGAIN in `mapped`/`copy`/etc., userspace will need to know that
-EAGAIN actually means 0 anyway.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CADrL8HXuZkX0CP6apHLw0A0Ax4b4a+-=XEt0dH5mAKiN7hBv3w@mail.gmail.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-25 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-24 21:57 [PATCH 0/2] " Peter Xu
2025-04-24 21:57 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Peter Xu
2025-04-25 15:12   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 15:54     ` James Houghton [this message]
2025-04-25 16:27       ` Peter Xu
2025-04-24 21:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/selftests: Add a test to verify mmap_changing race with -EAGAIN Peter Xu
2025-04-25 15:45 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm/userfaultfd: Fix uninitialized output field for -EAGAIN race James Houghton
2025-04-25 15:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 16:07     ` James Houghton
2025-04-25 16:18       ` Peter Xu

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