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From: Martin Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	 hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@kernel.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	 cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tangyeechou@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: change memcg->oom_group access with atomic operations
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 01:00:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADfL_jBDNZiEWbnn+w9+FhSRPzVwP872XBbhYTZwny8Jzr4bDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6563189C-7765-4FFA-A8F2-A5CC4860A1EF@linux.dev>

On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 1:17 PM Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 20, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 01:09:44PM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 11:16:38PM +0800, Yue Zhao wrote:
> >>> The knob for cgroup v2 memory controller: memory.oom.group
> >>> will be read and written simultaneously by user space
> >>> programs, thus we'd better change memcg->oom_group access
> >>> with atomic operations to avoid concurrency problems.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Hi Yue!
> >>
> >> I'm curious, have any seen any real issues which your patch is solving?
> >> Can you, please, provide a bit more details.
> >>
> >
> > IMHO such details are not needed. oom_group is being accessed
> > concurrently and one of them can be a write access. At least
> > READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE is needed here.
>
> Needed for what?
>
> I mean it’s obviously not a big deal to put READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() here, but I struggle to imagine a scenario when it will make any difference. IMHO it’s easier to justify a proper atomic operation here, even if it’s most likely an overkill.
>
> My question is very simple: the commit log mentions “… to avoid concurrency problems”, so I wonder what problems are these.

Thanks for your watching!
This topic is found in code review by coincidence, so no real issues
recorded for now. I checked other read/write callbacks about other knobs,
most of them use READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE on the user setting variable.
Actually I am curious as well why this interface doesn't use
READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE, is there any other synchronization mechanism I
didn't notice yet?

>
> Also there are other similar cgroup interfaces without READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE().
>
> Thanks!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-20 15:16 Yue Zhao
2023-02-20 21:09 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-20 23:06   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21  5:17     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  6:52       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 13:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-21 16:56           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 18:23             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 22:23               ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 22:38                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:13                   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 23:38                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:57                       ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-22  0:37                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-22  4:28                           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 17:47           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 18:15             ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 18:18             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-22  9:01           ` David Laight
2023-02-21 17:00         ` Martin Zhao
2023-02-21  7:22       ` Muchun Song
2023-02-21 17:48         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 17:00       ` Martin Zhao [this message]
2023-02-21 18:02         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  8:26     ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-21 17:00       ` Martin Zhao

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