From: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>
To: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
Cc: nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, tony.luck@intel.com,
wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, willy@infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] mm: memfd/hugetlb: introduce memfd-based userspace MFR policy
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 21:01:12 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACw3F50BwnLJW75EXgz0t5g+eUhr+wKgJ3YfRFq5208N5KfaiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31cc7bed-c30f-489c-3ac3-4842aa00b869@huawei.com>
On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 11:31 PM Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> wrote:
>
> On 2026/2/10 12:47, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 3:54 AM Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2026/2/4 3:23, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> >>> Sometimes immediately hard offlining a large chunk of contigous memory
> >>> having uncorrected memory errors (UE) may not be the best option.
> >>> Cloud providers usually serve capacity- and performance-critical guest
> >>> memory with 1G HugeTLB hugepages, as this significantly reduces the
> >>> overhead associated with managing page tables and TLB misses. However,
> >>> for today's HugeTLB system, once a byte of memory in a hugepage is
> >>> hardware corrupted, the kernel discards the whole hugepage, including
> >>> the healthy portion. Customer workload running in the VM can hardly
> >>> recover from such a great loss of memory.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your patch. Some questions below.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Therefore keeping or discarding a large chunk of contiguous memory
> >>> owned by userspace (particularly to serve guest memory) due to
> >>> recoverable UE may better be controlled by userspace process
> >>> that owns the memory, e.g. VMM in the Cloud environment.
> >>>
> >>> Introduce a memfd-based userspace memory failure (MFR) policy,
> >>> MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED. It is possible to support for other memfd,
> >>> but the current implementation only covers HugeTLB.
> >>>
> >>> For a hugepage associated with MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED enabled memfd,
> >>> whenever it runs into a new UE,
> >>>
> >>> * MFR defers hard offline operations, i.e., unmapping and
> >>
> >> So the folio can't be unpoisoned until hugetlb folio becomes free?
> >
> > Are you asking from testing perspective, are we still able to clean up
> > injected test errors via unpoison_memory() with MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED?
> >
> > If so, unpoison_memory() can't turn the HWPoison hugetlb page to
> > normal hugetlb page as MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED automatically dissolves
>
> We might loss some testability but that should be an acceptable compromise.
To clarify, looking at unpoison_memory(), it seems unpoison should
still work if called before truncated or memfd closed.
What I wanted to say is, for my test hugetlb-mfr.c, since I really
want to test the cleanup code (dissolving free hugepage having
multiple errors) after truncation or memfd closed, so we can only
unpoison the raw pages rejected by buddy allocator.
>
> > it. unpoison_memory(pfn) can probably still turn the HWPoison raw page
> > back to a normal one, but you already lost the hugetlb page.
> >
> >>
> >>> dissolving. MFR still sets HWPoison flag, holds a refcount
> >>> for every raw HWPoison page, record them in a list, sends SIGBUS
> >>> to the consuming thread, but si_addr_lsb is reduced to PAGE_SHIFT.
> >>> If userspace is able to handle the SIGBUS, the HWPoison hugepage
> >>> remains accessible via the mapping created with that memfd.
> >>>
> >>> * If the memory was not faulted in yet, the fault handler also
> >>> allows fault in the HWPoison folio.
> >>>
> >>> For a MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED enabled memfd, when it is closed, or
> >>> when userspace process truncates its hugepages:
> >>>
> >>> * When the HugeTLB in-memory file system removes the filemap's
> >>> folios one by one, it asks MFR to deal with HWPoison folios
> >>> on the fly, implemented by filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio().
> >>>
> >>> * MFR drops the refcounts being held for the raw HWPoison
> >>> pages within the folio. Now that the HWPoison folio becomes
> >>> free, MFR dissolves it into a set of raw pages. The healthy pages
> >>> are recycled into buddy allocator, while the HWPoison ones are
> >>> prevented from re-allocation.
> >>>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>>
> >>> +static void filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio_hugetlb(struct folio *folio)
> >>> +{
> >>> + int ret;
> >>> + struct llist_node *head;
> >>> + struct raw_hwp_page *curr, *next;
> >>> +
> >>> + /*
> >>> + * Since folio is still in the folio_batch, drop the refcount
> >>> + * elevated by filemap_get_folios.
> >>> + */
> >>> + folio_put_refs(folio, 1);
> >>> + head = llist_del_all(raw_hwp_list_head(folio));
> >>
> >> We might race with get_huge_page_for_hwpoison()? llist_add() might be called
> >> by folio_set_hugetlb_hwpoison() just after llist_del_all()?
> >
> > Oh, when there is a new UE while we releasing the folio here, right?
>
> Right.
>
> > In that case, would mutex_lock(&mf_mutex) eliminate potential race?
>
> IMO spin_lock_irq(&hugetlb_lock) might be better.
Looks like I don't need any lock given the correction below.
>
> >
> >>
> >>> +
> >>> + /*
> >>> + * Release refcounts held by try_memory_failure_hugetlb, one per
> >>> + * HWPoison-ed page in the raw hwp list.
> >>> + *
> >>> + * Set HWPoison flag on each page so that free_has_hwpoisoned()
> >>> + * can exclude them during dissolve_free_hugetlb_folio().
> >>> + */
> >>> + llist_for_each_entry_safe(curr, next, head, node) {
> >>> + folio_put(folio);
> >>
> >> The hugetlb folio refcnt will only be increased once even if it contains multiple UE sub-pages.
> >> See __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison() for details. So folio_put() might be called more times than
> >> folio_try_get() in __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison().
> >
> > The changes in folio_set_hugetlb_hwpoison() should make
> > __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison() not to take the "out" path which
> > decrease the increased refcount for folio. IOW, every time a new UE
> > happens, we handle the hugetlb page as if it is an in-use hugetlb
> > page.
>
> See below code snippet (comment [1] and [2]):
>
> int __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(unsigned long pfn, int flags,
> bool *migratable_cleared)
> {
> struct page *page = pfn_to_page(pfn);
> struct folio *folio = page_folio(page);
> int ret = 2; /* fallback to normal page handling */
> bool count_increased = false;
>
> if (!folio_test_hugetlb(folio))
> goto out;
>
> if (flags & MF_COUNT_INCREASED) {
> ret = 1;
> count_increased = true;
> } else if (folio_test_hugetlb_freed(folio)) {
> ret = 0;
> } else if (folio_test_hugetlb_migratable(folio)) {
>
> ^^^^*hugetlb_migratable is checked before trying to get folio refcnt* [1]
>
> ret = folio_try_get(folio);
> if (ret)
> count_increased = true;
> } else {
> ret = -EBUSY;
> if (!(flags & MF_NO_RETRY))
> goto out;
> }
>
> if (folio_set_hugetlb_hwpoison(folio, page)) {
> ret = -EHWPOISON;
> goto out;
> }
>
> /*
> * Clearing hugetlb_migratable for hwpoisoned hugepages to prevent them
> * from being migrated by memory hotremove.
> */
> if (count_increased && folio_test_hugetlb_migratable(folio)) {
> folio_clear_hugetlb_migratable(folio);
>
> ^^^^^*hugetlb_migratable is cleared when first time seeing folio* [2]
>
> *migratable_cleared = true;
> }
>
> Or am I miss something?
Thanks for your explaination! You are absolutely right. It turns out
the extra refcount I saw (during running hugetlb-mfr.c) on the folio
at the moment of filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio_hugetlb() is actually
because of the MF_COUNT_INCREASED during MADV_HWPOISON. In the past I
used to think that is the effect of folio_try_get() in
__get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(), and it is wrong. Now I see two cases:
- MADV_HWPOISON: instead of __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(),
madvise_inject_error() is the one that increments hugepage refcount
for every error injected. Different from other cases,
MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED makes the hugepage still a in-use page after
memory_failure(MF_COUNT_INCREASED), so I think madvise_inject_error()
should decrement in MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED case.
- In the real world: as you pointed out, MF always just increments
hugepage refcount once in __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(), even if it
runs into multiple errors. When
filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio_hugetlb() drops the refcount elevated
by filemap_get_folios(), it only needs to decrement again if
folio_ref_dec_and_test() returns false. I tested something like below:
/* drop the refcount elevated by filemap_get_folios. */
folio_put(folio);
if (folio_ref_count(folio))
folio_put(folio);
/* now refcount should be zero. */
ret = dissolve_free_hugetlb_folio(folio);
Besides, the good news is that
filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio_hugetlb() no longer needs to touch
raw_hwp_list.
>
> >
> >>
> >>> + SetPageHWPoison(curr->page);
> >>
> >> If hugetlb folio vmemmap is optimized, I think SetPageHWPoison might trigger BUG.
> >
> > Ah, I see, vmemmap optimization doesn't allow us to move flags from
> > raw_hwp_list to tail pages. I guess the best I can do is to bail out
> > if vmemmap is enabled like folio_clear_hugetlb_hwpoison().
>
> I think you can do this after hugetlb_vmemmap_restore_folio() is called.
Since I can get rid of the wrong folio_put() per raw HWPoison page, I
can just rely on dissolve_free_hugetlb_folio() to do the
hugetlb_vmemmap_restore_folio() and reuse the
folio_clear_hugetlb_hwpoison() code to move HWPoison flags to raw
pages.
I will do some more testing while preparing v4. Will also try if I can
avoid adding a speical cased folio_put() in madvise_inject_error().
>
> Thanks.
> .
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-13 5:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-03 19:23 [PATCH v3 0/3] memfd-based Userspace MFR Policy for HugeTLB Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-03 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mm: memfd/hugetlb: introduce memfd-based userspace MFR policy Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-04 17:29 ` William Roche
2026-02-10 4:46 ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-09 11:54 ` Miaohe Lin
2026-02-10 4:47 ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-10 7:31 ` Miaohe Lin
2026-02-13 5:01 ` Jiaqi Yan [this message]
2026-02-03 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] selftests/mm: test userspace MFR for HugeTLB hugepage Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-04 17:53 ` William Roche
2026-02-12 3:11 ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-09 12:01 ` Miaohe Lin
2026-02-12 3:17 ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-03 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Documentation: add documentation for MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-04 17:56 ` William Roche
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