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From: Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>
To: Tobias Jakobi <tjakobi@math.uni-bielefeld.de>
Cc: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ML dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	LAKML <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] ARM: sun8i: a33: Mali improvements
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:20:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACvgo51VRwMneHuS2jrM9ug8OEBsh5AD0ncpYfAZkGBFGKYMsg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cecfc48-576f-3888-08aa-1fe2edc3c752@math.uni-bielefeld.de>

On 17 February 2017 at 12:45, Tobias Jakobi
<tjakobi@math.uni-bielefeld.de> wrote:
> Hello Maxime,
>
> Maxime Ripard wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 01:43:06PM +0100, Tobias Jakobi wrote:
>>> I was wondering about the following. Wasn't there some strict
>>> requirement about code going upstream, which also included that there
>>> was a full open-source driver stack for it?
>>>
>>> I don't see how this is the case for Mali, neither in the kernel, nor in
>>> userspace. I'm aware that the Mali kernel driver is open-source. But it
>>> is not upstream, maintained out of tree, and won't land upstream in its
>>> current form (no resemblence to a DRM driver at all). And let's not talk
>>> about the userspace part.
>>>
>>> So, why should this be here?
>>
>> The device tree is a representation of the hardware itself. The state
>> of the driver support doesn't change the hardware you're running on,
>> just like your BIOS/UEFI on x86 won't change the device it reports to
>> Linux based on whether it has a driver for it.
> Like Emil already said, the new bindings and the DT entries are solely
> introduced to support a proprietary out-of-tree module.
>
> The current workflow when introducing new DT entries is the following:
> - upstream a driver that uses the entries
> - THEN add the new entries
>
That's the ideal route that I was thinking of.

At the same time, if prominent DRM people believe that we can/should
turn a blind eye, so be it.
I'm not trying to make Maxime's life hard, but point out that things
feel iffy IMHO.

Thanks
Emil

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-17 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-16 12:43 Tobias Jakobi
2017-02-16 16:54 ` Emil Velikov
2017-02-17 15:44   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-02-17 20:39     ` Emil Velikov
2017-02-24  0:19       ` Maxime Ripard
2017-02-26 12:14         ` Emil Velikov
2017-02-17 21:56     ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2017-02-16 18:45 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-02-17 12:45   ` Tobias Jakobi
2017-02-17 13:20     ` Emil Velikov [this message]
2017-02-17 15:42     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-02-17 15:56       ` Tobias Jakobi
2017-02-24 13:56         ` Rob Herring
2017-02-17 15:43     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-02-20 16:49       ` Thierry Reding
2017-02-23  0:44         ` Maxime Ripard
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2017-02-09 16:39 Maxime Ripard

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