From: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Ying Huang <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] mm, swap: introduce swap table as swap cache (phase I)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 11:50:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACePvbWg1hg1G0+unAJKz9SiwJOhahf8Gsoq+VB-5HDdAiRcqw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7Bv99OHvbEiDcEMVYS5bRdSgSu75a8YUEQ+3roLiOo=ug@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 9:36 AM Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 2:57 PM Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kairui,
> >
> > I give one pass of review on your series already. I Ack a portion of
> > it. I expect some clarification or update on the rest.
> >
> > I especially want to double check the swap cache atomic set a range of
> > swap entries to folio.
> > I want to make sure this bug does not happen to swap table:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/5bee194c-9cd3-47e7-919b-9f352441f855@kernel.dk/
> >
> > I just double checked, the swap table should be fine in this regard.
> > The bug is triggered by memory allocation failure in the middle of
> > insert folio. Swap tables already populated the table when the swap
> > entry is allocated and handed out to the caller. We don't do memory
> > allocation when inserting folio into swap cache, which is a good
> > thing. We should not have that bug.
> >
> > I also want some extra pair of eyes on those subtle behavior change
> > patches, I expect you to split them out in the next version.
> > I will need to go through the split out subtle patch one more time as
> > well. This pass I only catch the behavior change, haven't got a chance
> > to reason those behavior changes patches are indeed fine. If you can
> > defer those split out patches, that will save me some time to reason
> > them on the next round. Your call.
>
> Thanks a lot for the review and raising concern about robustness of phase 1.
>
> I just added more atomic runtime checks and ran another few days of
> stress and performance tests. So far I don't think there is a race or
> bug in the code, as I have been testing the longer series for months.
> But with more checks, we are still a lot faster than before, and much
> less error prone. So it seems very reasonable and acceptable to have
> them as this is a quite important part, even for a long term.
Yes, that is what I want it to be. Every time an entry messes up in
the swap table, that is one page worth of corrupted data. I definitely
don't want the corrupted memory to propagate to another place, e.g.
write to the harddrive. That is much worse than having a BUG() and
stopping the machine there.
> That will surely help catch any potential new or historical issue.
Yes, let it rip in the mm-untable and hopefully we don't see any
trigger of that in the wild.
> V2 would have a few more patches splitted from old ones so it should
> be cleaner. The code should be basically still the same though. Some
> parts like the whole new infrastructure are really hard to split though
> as they are supposed to work as a whole.
That is great. Looking forward to it.
> > Oh, I also want to write a design document for the swap table idea. I
> > will send it your way to incorporate into your next version of the
> > series.
> >
> > Thanks for the great work! I am very excited about this.
>
> Later phases will also be exciting where we start to trim down the LOC
> and long existing issues, with net gains :)
Same feeling here. Also looking forward to it.
Chris
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-04 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-22 19:20 Kairui Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm, swap: use unified helper for swap cache look up Kairui Song
2025-08-27 2:47 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 3:50 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 13:45 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-27 3:52 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-27 13:46 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-28 3:20 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-01 23:50 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 6:12 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 6:52 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 10:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 12:32 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 13:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 16:38 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 10:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 17:13 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-03 17:41 ` Nhat Pham
2025-09-04 16:05 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm, swap: always lock and check the swap cache folio before use Kairui Song
2025-08-27 6:13 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 13:44 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 1:42 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 7:03 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 14:35 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-28 3:41 ` Baolin Wang
2025-08-28 18:05 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 1:53 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 15:15 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 17:17 ` Chris Li
2025-09-01 18:17 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-01 21:10 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 5:40 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 10:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 10:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 12:46 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 13:27 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm, swap: rename and move some swap cluster definition and helpers Kairui Song
2025-08-30 2:31 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 5:53 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 10:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 12:50 ` Chris Li
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm, swap: tidy up swap device and cluster info helpers Kairui Song
2025-08-27 3:47 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-27 17:44 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 23:46 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-30 2:38 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 6:01 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 6:02 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 13:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 15:03 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 8:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm/shmem, swap: remove redundant error handling for replacing folio Kairui Song
2025-08-25 3:02 ` Baolin Wang
2025-08-25 9:45 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 2:41 ` Chris Li
2025-09-03 8:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm, swap: use the swap table for the swap cache and switch API Kairui Song
2025-08-30 1:54 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-30 3:40 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 3:34 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 16:52 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-31 1:00 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 11:51 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 9:55 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 11:58 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 23:44 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 2:12 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 2:31 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 11:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-03 12:54 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-04 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm, swap: remove contention workaround for swap cache Kairui Song
2025-08-30 4:07 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 15:24 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-31 15:54 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-31 20:06 ` Chris Li
2025-08-31 20:04 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 10:06 ` Barry Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm, swap: implement dynamic allocation of swap table Kairui Song
2025-08-30 4:17 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 11:15 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 13:17 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 16:57 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 23:31 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 2:13 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 12:35 ` Chris Li
2025-09-03 20:52 ` Barry Song
2025-09-04 6:50 ` Chris Li
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm, swap: use a single page for swap table when the size fits Kairui Song
2025-08-30 4:23 ` Chris Li
2025-08-26 22:00 ` [PATCH 0/9] mm, swap: introduce swap table as swap cache (phase I) Chris Li
2025-08-30 5:44 ` Chris Li
2025-09-04 16:36 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-04 18:50 ` Chris Li [this message]
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