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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: Yunsheng Lin <yunshenglin0825@gmail.com>,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
	 liuyonglong@huawei.com, fanghaiqing@huawei.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 2/2] page_pool: fix IOMMU crash when driver has already unbound
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:23:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC_iWjLBE9UY2wk_kKE=t=npRBF13HoLWODLUpQJ6F3P8sv4rw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4316fa2d-8dd8-44f2-b211-4b2ef3200d75@redhat.com>

Hi Paolo,

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 10:38, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 10/2/24 04:34, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> > On 10/1/2024 9:32 PM, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> >> Is the problem only tied to VFs drivers? It's a pity all the page_pool
> >> users will have to pay a bill for it...
> >
> > I am afraid it is not only tied to VFs drivers, as:
> > attempting DMA unmaps after the driver has already unbound may leak
> > resources or at worst corrupt memory.
> >
> > Unloading PFs driver might cause the above problems too, I guess the
> > probability of crashing is low for the PF as PF can not be disable
> > unless it can be hot-unplug'ed, but the probability of leaking resources
> > behind the dma mapping might be similar.
>
> Out of sheer ignorance, why/how the refcount acquired by the page pool
> on the device does not prevent unloading?
>
> I fear the performance impact could be very high: AFICS, if the item
> array become fragmented, insertion will take linar time, with the quite
> large item_count/pool size. If so, it looks like a no-go.

It would be could if someone could test that. I'll look around in case
we have any test machines with cards that run on page pool.

>
> I fear we should consider blocking the device removal until all the
> pages are returned/unmapped ?!? (I hope that could be easier/faster)

Jakub send an RFC doing that [0]. Yes, this is far far simpler and
does not affect performance, but aren't we implicitly breaking
userspace?

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20240806151618.1373008-1-kuba@kernel.org/

Thanks
/Ilias
>
> /P
>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-02  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240925075707.3970187-1-linyunsheng@huawei.com>
2024-09-25  7:57 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-09-26 18:15   ` Mina Almasry
2024-09-27  3:57     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-09-27  5:54       ` Mina Almasry
2024-09-27  7:25         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-09-27  9:21       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-09-27  9:49         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-09-27  9:58           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-09-27 11:29             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-09-28  7:34               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-09-29  2:44                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-09-30  8:09                   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-09-30  8:38                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-01 13:32   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-10-02  2:34     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-02  7:37       ` Paolo Abeni
2024-10-02  8:23         ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2024-10-05 12:38         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-02  6:46     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-10-02  6:51       ` Ilias Apalodimas

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