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From: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: kernel-team@android.com, android-mm@google.com,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Hans Boehm <hboehm@google.com>,
	 Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: Respect mmap hint address when aligning for THP
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 10:11:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC_TJvfK8Rtf2tAtG-1QMK_SCjUAQeGZWkCR-aA1s69Pae7vEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db6e1966-3824-45cd-8cae-740348780002@redhat.com>

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 6:35 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 18.11.24 22:46, Kalesh Singh wrote:
> > Commit efa7df3e3bb5 ("mm: align larger anonymous mappings on THP
> > boundaries") updated __get_unmapped_area() to align the start address
> > for the VMA to a PMD boundary if CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE=y.
> >
> > It does this by effectively looking up a region that is of size,
> > request_size + PMD_SIZE, and aligning up the start to a PMD boundary.
> >
> > Commit 4ef9ad19e176 ("mm: huge_memory: don't force huge page alignment
> > on 32 bit") opted out of this for 32bit due to regressions in mmap base
> > randomization.
> >
> > Commit d4148aeab412 ("mm, mmap: limit THP alignment of anonymous
> > mappings to PMD-aligned sizes") restricted this to only mmap sizes that
> > are multiples of the PMD_SIZE due to reported regressions in some
> > performance benchmarks -- which seemed mostly due to the reduced spatial
> > locality of related mappings due to the forced PMD-alignment.
> >
> > Another unintended side effect has emerged: When a user specifies an mmap
> > hint address, the THP alignment logic modifies the behavior, potentially
> > ignoring the hint even if a sufficiently large gap exists at the requested
> > hint location.
> >
> > Example Scenario:
> >
> > Consider the following simplified virtual address (VA) space:
> >
> >      ...
> >
> >      0x200000-0x400000 --- VMA A
> >      0x400000-0x600000 --- Hole
> >      0x600000-0x800000 --- VMA B
> >
> >      ...
> >
> > A call to mmap() with hint=0x400000 and len=0x200000 behaves differently:
> >
> >    - Before THP alignment: The requested region (size 0x200000) fits into
> >      the gap at 0x400000, so the hint is respected.
> >
> >    - After alignment: The logic searches for a region of size
> >      0x400000 (len + PMD_SIZE) starting at 0x400000.
> >      This search fails due to the mapping at 0x600000 (VMA B), and the hint
> >      is ignored, falling back to arch_get_unmapped_area[_topdown]().
> >
> > In general the hint is effectively ignored, if there is any
> > existing mapping in the below range:
> >
> >       [mmap_hint + mmap_size, mmap_hint + mmap_size + PMD_SIZE)
> >
> > This changes the semantics of mmap hint; from ""Respect the hint if a
> > sufficiently large gap exists at the requested location" to "Respect the
> > hint only if an additional PMD-sized gap exists beyond the requested size".
> >
> > This has performance implications for allocators that allocate their heap
> > using mmap but try to keep it "as contiguous as possible" by using the
> > end of the exisiting heap as the address hint. With the new behavior
> > it's more likely to get a much less contiguous heap, adding extra
> > fragmentation and performance overhead.
> >
> > To restore the expected behavior; don't use thp_get_unmapped_area_vmflags()
> > when the user provided a hint address, for anonymous mappings.
> >
> > Note: As, Yang Shi, pointed out: the issue still remains for filesystems
> > which are using thp_get_unmapped_area() for their get_unmapped_area() op.
> > It is unclear what worklaods will regress for if we ignore THP alignment
> > when the hint address is provided for such file backed mappings -- so this
> > fix will be handled separately.
> >
> > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> > Cc: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
> > Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
> > Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> > Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> > Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Hans Boehm <hboehm@google.com>
> > Cc: Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>
> > Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>
> > Fixes: efa7df3e3bb5 ("mm: align larger anonymous mappings on THP boundaries")
> > Signed-off-by: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> > ---
>
> LGTM. Hopefully that's the end of this story :)
>
> Reviewed-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>

Thanks David.

Andrew, when you have a chance, could you take this for mm fixes please.

Thanks,
Kalesh

>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-20 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-18 21:46 Kalesh Singh
2024-11-19 14:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20 18:11   ` Kalesh Singh [this message]
2024-12-06  8:46   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-06  2:49 ` Kefeng Wang

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