From: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/22] Add support for shared PTEs across processes
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 15:06:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC_TJvdgvyjyJsU4v6W+3tHKx_2e8UMJU3RT2HKLSngcC+yH3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b82a5ac3-33e9-4cbf-892a-f0c7f6fe0c20@kernel.org>
On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 1:40 AM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
<david@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > I believe that managing a pseudo-filesystem (msharefs) and mapping via
> > ioctl during process creation could introduce overhead that impacts
> > app startup latency. Ideally, child apps shouldn't be aware of this
> > sharing or need to manage the pseudo-filesystem on their end.
> All process must be aware of these special semantics.
>
> I'd assume that fork() would simply replicate mshare region into the
> fork'ed child process. So from that point of view, it's "transparent" as
> in "no special mshare() handling required after fork".
Hi David,
That's agood point. If fork() simply replicates the mshare region, it
does achieve transparency in terms of setup.
I am still concerned about transparency in terms of observability.
Applications and sometimes inspect their own mappings (from
/proc/self/maps) to locate specific code or data regions for various
anti-tamper and obfuscation techniques. [2] If those mappings suddenly
point to an msharefs pseudo-file instead of the expected shared
library backing, it may break user-space assumptions and cause
compatibility issues.
Perhaps we could advertise the shared VMAs in the /proc/*/[s]maps
entries for the processes sharing these areas?
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAC_TJveMB1_iAUt81D5-+z8gArbVcbfDM=djCZG_bRVaCEMRmg@mail.gmail.com/
Thanks,
Kalesh
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-25 23:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-20 1:03 Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/22] mm: Add msharefs filesystem Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-08 18:29 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-08 19:09 ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-10 12:14 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-09-10 12:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-20 1:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/22] mm/mshare: pre-populate msharefs with information file Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:03 ` [PATCH v3 03/22] mm/mshare: make msharefs writable and support directories Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:03 ` [PATCH v3 04/22] mm/mshare: allocate an mm_struct for msharefs files Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:03 ` [PATCH v3 05/22] mm/mshare: add ways to set the size of an mshare region Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:03 ` [PATCH v3 06/22] mm/mshare: Add a vma flag to indicate " Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-08 18:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 18:56 ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-08 19:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 19:03 ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 07/22] mm/mshare: Add mmap support Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 19:02 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 08/22] mm/mshare: flush all TLBs when updating PTEs in an mshare range Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 09/22] sched/numa: do not scan msharefs vmas Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 10/22] mm: add mmap_read_lock_killable_nested() Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 11/22] mm: add and use unmap_page_range vm_ops hook Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-21 15:40 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 12/22] mm: introduce PUD page table shared count Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 13/22] mm/mshare: prepare for page table sharing support Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-15 15:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 14/22] x86/mm: enable page table sharing Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 15/22] mm: create __do_mmap() to take an mm_struct * arg Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 16/22] mm: pass the mm in vma_munmap_struct Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 17/22] sched/mshare: mshare ownership Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 18/22] mm/mshare: Add an ioctl for mapping objects in an mshare region Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 20:36 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 19/22] mm/mshare: Add an ioctl for unmapping " Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 20/22] mm/mshare: support mapping files and anon hugetlb " Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 21/22] mm/mshare: provide a way to identify an mm as an mshare host mm Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-20 1:04 ` [PATCH v3 22/22] mm/mshare: charge fault handling allocations to the mshare owner Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-08 18:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 19:21 ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-08 20:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 20:55 ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-08 20:32 ` [PATCH v3 00/22] Add support for shared PTEs across processes David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 20:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-08 21:14 ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-09 7:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09 18:29 ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-09-09 19:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-02-20 21:35 ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-21 12:40 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-23 17:43 ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-23 19:55 ` anthony.yznaga
2026-02-25 22:53 ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-24 9:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-25 23:06 ` Kalesh Singh [this message]
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