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From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
Cc: aruna.ramakrishna@oracle.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	 peterz@infradead.org, paulmck@kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
	 dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, jannh@google.com,
	jorgelo@chromium.org,  keescook@chromium.org,
	keith.lucas@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,  sroettger@google.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/5] x86/pkeys: Update PKRU to enable all pkeys before XSAVE
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 07:47:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+ZYKpZAu0UtZ9N4EjC+qkes5oenwNPceJqkk7XrJD7g=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABi2SkVzvtTwEt1aMQxDGihaMZSuxDTu4cdV-9-krk0a70PBRw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 at 23:46, Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Dmitry
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 10:06 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 at 11:02, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Re commit 70044df250d022572e26cd301bddf75eac1fe50e:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240802061318.2140081-4-aruna.ramakrishna@oracle.com/
> > >
> > > > If the alternate signal stack is protected by a different pkey than the
> > > > current execution stack, copying xsave data to the sigaltstack will fail
> > > > if its pkey is not enabled in the PKRU register.
> > > >
> > > > We do not know which pkey was used by the application for the altstack,
> > > > so enable all pkeys before xsave.
> > > >
> > > > But this updated PKRU value is also pushed onto the sigframe, which
> > > > means the register value restored from sigcontext will be different from
> > > > the user-defined one, which is unexpected. Fix that by overwriting the
> > > > PKRU value on the sigframe with the original, user-defined PKRU.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This unfortunatly seems to be broken for rseq user-space writes.
> > > If the signal is caused by rseq struct being inaccessible due to PKEYs,
> > > we try to write to rseq again at setup_rt_frame->rseq_signal_deliver,
> > > which happens _before_ sig_prepare_pkru and won't succeed
> > > (PKEY is still inaccessible, hard kills the process).
> > > Any PKEY sandbox would want to restict untrusted access to rseq
> > > as well (otherwise allows easy sandbox escapes).
> > >
> > > If we do sig_prepare_pkru before rseq_signal_deliver (and generally
> > > before any copy_to_userpace), then user-space handler gets SIGSEGV
> > > and could unregister rseq and retry.
> > >
> > > However, I am not sure if it's the best solution performance-
> > > and complexity-wise (for user-space). A better solution may be to
> > > change __rseq_handle_notify_resume to temporary switch to default
> > > PKEY if user accesses fail.
> > > Rseq is similar to signals in this respect. Since rseq updates
> > > happen asynchronously with respect to user-space control flow,
> > > if a program uses rseq and ever makes rseq inaccessible with PKEYs,
> > > it's in trouble and will be randomly killed.
> > > Since rseq updates are asynchronous as signals, they shouldn't
> > > assume PKEY is set to default value that allows access
> > > to rseq descriptor.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > Another question about switching to pkey 0 and not switching back on all errors.
> > Can it create security problems by allowing sandboxed code to escape?
> >
> Sandbox escape would be bad , we wouldn't want the calling thread to
> get PKRU = 0 in any error path.
>
> > Namely, here:
> >
> > +        /* Update PKRU to enable access to the alternate signal stack. */
> > +        pkru = sig_prepare_pkru();
> >          /* save i387 and extended state */
> > -        if (!copy_fpstate_to_sigframe(*fpstate, (void __user
> > *)buf_fx, math_size, pkru))
> > +        if (!copy_fpstate_to_sigframe(*fpstate, (void __user
> > *)buf_fx, math_size, pkru)) {
> > +                /*
> > +                 * Restore PKRU to the original, user-defined value; disable
> > +                 * extra pkeys enabled for the alternate signal stack, if any.
> > +                 */
> > +                write_pkru(pkru);
> >                  return (void __user *)-1L;
> > +        }
> >
> > we restore to the original pkru on this error, but there are other
> > failure paths later, e.g.:
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.13.1/source/arch/x86/kernel/signal_64.c#L199
> >
> > on these errors paths we will eventually get here to force_sig(SIGSEGV):
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.13.1/source/kernel/signal.c#L1685
> > which just sends SIGSEGV and is not fatal.
> >
> > So hypothetically, if there is a SIGUSR1 handler without SA_ONSTACK,
> > which fails, but SIGSEGV handler has SA_ONSTACK and doesn't fail, this
> > will result in resetting PKRU to 0 without restoring it back.
> > Or sandboxed code somehow arranges for the first signal setup for other reasons.
> >
> Can you walk me through the setup and steps that led to this situation?

I don't anything more concrete steps, just the observation that PKRU
is restored only on 1 out of N error paths.

> > This is, of course, a tricky attack vector, and the program must
> > resume after SIGSEGV somehow (there are some such cases, e.g. mmaping
> > something lazily and retrying), but with security you never know how
> > creative an attacker can get and what you are missing that they are
> > not missing. So it looks safer to restore to the original PKRU on all
> > errors.
>
> Thanks
> -Jeff


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-11  6:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-02  6:13 [PATCH v8 0/5] x86/pkeys: update " Aruna Ramakrishna
2024-08-02  6:13 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] x86/pkeys: Add PKRU as a parameter in signal handling functions Aruna Ramakrishna
2024-08-09 17:16   ` Jeff Xu
2024-08-02  6:13 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] x86/pkeys: Add helper functions to update PKRU on the sigframe Aruna Ramakrishna
2024-08-02  6:13 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] x86/pkeys: Update PKRU to enable all pkeys before XSAVE Aruna Ramakrishna
2024-08-09 17:30   ` Jeff Xu
2024-08-27  0:53     ` Jeff Xu
2024-10-03 23:29       ` Aruna Ramakrishna
2024-10-04  4:20         ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-04 10:01   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-06 18:06     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-10 22:46       ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-11  6:47         ` Dmitry Vyukov [this message]
2025-02-06 18:21     ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-06 18:35       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-08-02  6:13 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] x86/pkeys: Restore altstack access in sigreturn() Aruna Ramakrishna
2024-08-02  6:13 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] selftests/mm: Add new testcases for pkeys Aruna Ramakrishna
2024-08-02  8:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-02  8:22   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-08-02 12:04   ` Thomas Gleixner

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