From: 贺中坤 <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
minchan@kernel.org, senozhatsky@chromium.org, mhocko@suse.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Fabian Deutsch <fdeutsch@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] zram: charge the compressed RAM to the page's memcgroup
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 12:40:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACSyD1MepXm4EL3o6OscAjRKQhAWZZ5xZKS8a0TXLAazUE+MpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tka-=ppaheVxn2-f6u0egBp8kOHYAK0bBudC62SKkZPk5w@mail.gmail.com>
> Thanks Fabian for tagging me.
>
> I am not familiar with #1, so I will speak to #2. Zhongkun, There are
> a few parts that I do not understand -- hopefully you can help me out
> here:
>
> (1) If I understand correctly in this patch we set the active memcg
> trying to charge any pages allocated in a zspage to the current memcg,
> yet that zspage will contain multiple compressed object slots, not
> just the one used by this memcg. Aren't we overcharging the memcg?
> Basically the first memcg that happens to allocate the zspage will pay
> for all the objects in this zspage, even after it stops using the
> zspage completely?
It will not overcharge. As you said below, we are not using
__GFP_ACCOUNT and charging the compressed slots to the memcgs.
>
> (2) Patch 3 seems to be charging the compressed slots to the memcgs,
> yet this patch is trying to charge the entire zspage. Aren't we double
> charging the zspage? I am guessing this isn't happening because (as
> Michal pointed out) we are not using __GFP_ACCOUNT here anyway, so
> this patch may be NOP, and the actual charging is coming from patch 3
> only.
YES, the actual charging is coming from patch 3. This patch just
delivers the BIO page's memcg to the current task which is not the
consumer.
>
> (3) Zswap recently implemented per-memcg charging of compressed
> objects in a much simpler way. If your main interest is #2 (which is
> what I understand from the commit log), it seems like zswap might be
> providing this already? Why can't you use zswap? Is it the fact that
> zswap requires a backing swapfile?
Thanks for your reply and review. Yes, the zswap requires a backing
swapfile. The I/O path is very complex, sometimes it will throttle the
whole system if some resources are short , so we hope to use zram.
>
> Thanks!
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-16 4:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-15 3:48 Zhongkun He
2023-06-15 4:59 ` Yu Zhao
2023-06-15 8:57 ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15 10:00 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:14 ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-16 1:39 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16 4:40 ` 贺中坤 [this message]
2023-06-16 7:37 ` [External] " Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16 8:04 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16 8:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16 8:39 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-15 9:32 ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15 9:41 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 11:15 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 11:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 12:19 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 13:40 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16 3:44 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 9:35 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 11:58 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:16 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 13:09 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 13:27 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 14:13 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:20 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-16 3:31 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-16 6:40 ` Michal Hocko
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