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From: 贺中坤 <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	minchan@kernel.org, senozhatsky@chromium.org,  mhocko@suse.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Fabian Deutsch <fdeutsch@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] zram: charge the compressed RAM to the page's memcgroup
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 12:40:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACSyD1MepXm4EL3o6OscAjRKQhAWZZ5xZKS8a0TXLAazUE+MpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tka-=ppaheVxn2-f6u0egBp8kOHYAK0bBudC62SKkZPk5w@mail.gmail.com>

> Thanks Fabian for tagging me.
>
> I am not familiar with #1, so I will speak to #2. Zhongkun, There are
> a few parts that I do not understand -- hopefully you can help me out
> here:
>
> (1) If I understand correctly in this patch we set the active memcg
> trying to charge any pages allocated in a zspage to the current memcg,
> yet that zspage will contain multiple compressed object slots, not
> just the one used by this memcg. Aren't we overcharging the memcg?
> Basically the first memcg that happens to allocate the zspage will pay
> for all the objects in this zspage, even after it stops using the
> zspage completely?

It will not overcharge.  As you said below, we are not using
__GFP_ACCOUNT and charging the compressed slots to the memcgs.

>
> (2) Patch 3 seems to be charging the compressed slots to the memcgs,
> yet this patch is trying to charge the entire zspage. Aren't we double
> charging the zspage? I am guessing this isn't happening because (as
> Michal pointed out) we are not using __GFP_ACCOUNT here anyway, so
> this patch may be NOP, and the actual charging is coming from patch 3
> only.

YES, the actual charging is coming from patch 3. This patch just
delivers the BIO page's  memcg to the current task which is not the
consumer.

>
> (3) Zswap recently implemented per-memcg charging of compressed
> objects in a much simpler way. If your main interest is #2 (which is
> what I understand from the commit log), it seems like zswap might be
> providing this already? Why can't you use zswap? Is it the fact that
> zswap requires a backing swapfile?

Thanks for your reply and review. Yes, the zswap requires a backing
swapfile. The I/O path is very complex, sometimes it will throttle the
whole system if some resources are short , so we hope to use zram.

>
> Thanks!
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-16  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-15  3:48 Zhongkun He
2023-06-15  4:59 ` Yu Zhao
2023-06-15  8:57   ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15 10:00     ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:14       ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-16  1:39     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16  4:40       ` 贺中坤 [this message]
2023-06-16  7:37         ` [External] " Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16  7:57           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16  8:04             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16  8:37               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16  8:39                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-15  9:32   ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15  9:41   ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15  9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 11:15   ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 11:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 12:19       ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:56         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 13:40           ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:46             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16  3:44               ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15  9:35 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 11:58   ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:16     ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 13:09       ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 13:27         ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 14:13           ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:20             ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-16  3:31               ` 贺中坤
2023-06-16  6:40                 ` Michal Hocko

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