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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	 Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	 Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] ARM: Disable HIGHPTE on PREEMPT_RT kernels
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:27:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdbYU=Txm0zUWDWvNXA0JHRNGpy1ccy0zQdiBb2Ya+UBFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241211152257.Igx3aT2Y@linutronix.de>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 4:22 PM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
<bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> On 2024-12-11 14:29:29 [+0100], Linus Walleij wrote:
> > So fast GUP is supposed to be lockless, and should just not
> > have this problem. So it can't be addressing gup_fast_pgd_range()
> > right?
> …
> > I'm more asking if HIGHPTE even acquires a spinlock anymore
> > as it is supposed to be "fast"/lockless. If it does, it is clearly violating
> > the "fast" promise of the fast GUP API and should not exist.
>
> This is lockless on x86. The problem is ARM's
> arch_kmap_local_high_get(). This is where the lock is from.

Aha that calls down to kmap_high_get() that that issues
lock_kmap_any(flags).

But is it really sound that the "fast" API does this? It feels
like a violation of the whole design of the fast stuff.

Yours,
Linus Walleij


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-13  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-10 16:05 [PATCH 0/4] ARM: towards 32-bit preempt-rt support Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-10 16:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] ARM: Disable jump-label on PREEMPT_RT Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-11 13:04   ` Linus Walleij
2024-12-11 13:26   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-10 16:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] ARM: Disable HIGHPTE on PREEMPT_RT kernels Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-11 13:29   ` Linus Walleij
2024-12-11 15:22     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-13  0:27       ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2024-12-13  9:11         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-12-14 22:11           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-11 13:48   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-11 14:04     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-11 14:30       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-11 15:55       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-12-20 14:37         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-10 16:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] ARM: drop CONFIG_HIGHPTE support Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-11 13:32   ` Linus Walleij
2024-12-11 13:50     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-12-11 14:31       ` Linus Walleij
2024-12-11 14:25   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-14 18:40   ` David Laight
2024-12-20 13:10     ` Linus Walleij
2024-12-20 14:30       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-10 16:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: drop HIGHPTE support altogether Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-11 13:53   ` Linus Walleij
2024-12-11 14:29   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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