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From: Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <d.kasatkin@samsung.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: IMA: kernel reading files opened with O_DIRECT
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 01:22:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACE9dm8TW1+7bq6hJiOmoAw+w+ZD8Ma=Sf6a5ZM2HZ5X1Lcifw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140711201054.GB18033@amd.pavel.ucw.cz>

On 11 July 2014 23:10, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> On Wed 2014-07-02 11:40:50, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 11:55:41AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> > It's acceptable.
>>
>> It's not because it will then also affect other reads going on at the
>> same time.
>>
>> The whole concept of ima is just broken, and if you want to do these
>> sort of verification they need to happen inside the filesystem and not
>> above it.
>
> ...and doing it at filesystem layer would also permit verification of
> per-block (64KB? 1MB?) hashes.

Please design one single and the best universal filesystem which does it.

> Reading entire iso image when I run
> "file foo.iso" is anti-social..
>                                                                         Pavel

Please make the policy which does not make anti-social.

It is all about use-case.

- Dmitry

> --
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-11 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-02  9:40 Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-07-02 15:55 ` Jeff Moyer
2014-07-02 18:12   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-07-02 18:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-02 18:45     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-07-02 19:07       ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2014-07-11 20:10     ` Pavel Machek
2014-07-11 22:22       ` Dmitry Kasatkin [this message]
2014-07-15 13:03         ` Pavel Machek
2014-07-16 12:48           ` Mimi Zohar

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