From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 7/7] mseal, system mappings: update mseal.rst
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 14:31:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABi2SkXcYnSOTPHy=VYCUGA9UpXSt_2fCqF8sWS8nxrah5ziPw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7e1bfbf2-3115-408d-a40c-ae51a7ffffe4@lucifer.local>
On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 10:07 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 05:45:13PM +0000, jeffxu@chromium.org wrote:
> > From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
> >
> > Update memory sealing documentation to include details about system
> > mappings.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
> > ---
> > Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst | 7 +++++++
> > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > index 41102f74c5e2..10147281bf2d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > @@ -130,6 +130,13 @@ Use cases
> >
> > - Chrome browser: protect some security sensitive data structures.
> >
> > +- System mappings:
> > + If supported by an architecture (via CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS),
> > + the CONFIG_MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS seals system mappings, e.g. vdso, vvar,
> > + uprobes, sigpage, vectors, etc. CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, UML, gVisor, rr are
> > + known to relocate or unmap system mapping, therefore this config can't be
> > + enabled universally.
>
> Thanks for adding this.
>
> Similar comments to the Kconfig update - you are listing features that do not
> exist yet, please just list what you're doing, specifically, and avoid the vague
> 'etc.', we don't need to be vague.
>
OK, I will remove etc and list the known mappings here.
> As per the Kconfig comment - you need to be a lot more clear, I think you're
> duplicating the text from there to here, so again I suggest something like:
>
> WARNING: This feature breaks programs which rely on relocating or
> unmapping system mappings.
>
> Known broken software at the time of writing includes
> CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, UML, gVisor and rr.
>
Sure.
> You also seem to be writing very little here, it's a documentation page, you can
> be as verbose as you like :)
>
> You really need to add some more detail here in general - you aren't explaining
> why people would want to enable this, what you're mitigating, etc. from that you
> explain _why_ it doesn't work for some things.
>
The mseal.rst already includes below regarding the protection/mitigation.
> You're also not mentioning architectural limitations here, for instance that you
> can only do this on arches that don't require VDSO relocation and listing
> known-good arches.
>
> This is a documentation file, you can go wild :) the more information here the
> better.
>
> WARNING
> =======
>
> > +
> > When not to use mseal
> > =====================
> > Applications can apply sealing to any virtual memory region from userspace,
> > --
> > 2.48.1.601.g30ceb7b040-goog
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-25 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-24 17:45 [PATCH v6 0/7] mseal system mappings jeffxu
2025-02-24 17:45 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] mseal, system mappings: kernel config and header change jeffxu
2025-02-24 18:21 ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-24 18:44 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 18:52 ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-24 18:55 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-24 18:59 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 19:02 ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-24 19:10 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 19:22 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 19:32 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 19:33 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 19:26 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-24 19:34 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 19:03 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 19:07 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 19:18 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 19:39 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 20:13 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 19:10 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 19:25 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-24 19:42 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 20:12 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 21:08 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 17:45 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] selftests: x86: test_mremap_vdso: skip if vdso is msealed jeffxu
2025-02-24 19:02 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-24 21:04 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 21:24 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 17:45 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] mseal, system mappings: enable x86-64 jeffxu
2025-02-24 21:06 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 17:45 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] mseal, system mappings: enable arm64 jeffxu
2025-02-24 17:45 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] mseal, system mappings: enable uml architecture jeffxu
2025-02-24 17:45 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] mseal, system mappings: uprobe mapping jeffxu
2025-02-24 17:45 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] mseal, system mappings: update mseal.rst jeffxu
2025-02-24 19:04 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-24 20:26 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-24 21:06 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 21:54 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-25 6:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 22:31 ` Jeff Xu [this message]
2025-02-25 22:36 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 6:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 5:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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