From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/7] mseal, system mappings: kernel config and header change
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 17:33:24 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABi2SkXT0z9YFsEkf3-HH0r_NuXXs_SJid9yzjuu0SwuxxWmZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9abd68d9-3e6d-46a0-b92c-5aee0a90abf3@lucifer.local>
On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 10:05 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> > +config ARCH_HAS_MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS
> > + bool
> > + help
> > + Control MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS access based on architecture.
> > +
> > + A 64-bit kernel is required for the memory sealing feature.
> > + No specific hardware features from the CPU are needed.
> > +
> > + To enable this feature, the architecture needs to update their
> > + special mappings calls to include the sealing flag and confirm
> > + that it doesn't unmap/remap system mappings during the life
> > + time of the process. After the architecture enables this, a
> > + distribution can set CONFIG_MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPING to manage access
> > + to the feature.
>
> Architectures also need to be confirmed not to require any form of VDSO
> relocation, which as discussed in previous series some arches appear to
> need to do. I'd mention that here.
>
This might need clarification, the system mapping includes vdso, right
? Why the focus on vdso ?
The sentence "... it doesn't unmap/remap system mappings during the
lifetime of the process." already cover what you want here, I think.
> > +
> > + For complete descriptions of memory sealing, please see
> > + Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > +
> > config HAVE_PERF_EVENTS
> > bool
> > help
> > diff --git a/security/Kconfig b/security/Kconfig
> > index f10dbf15c294..15a86a952910 100644
> > --- a/security/Kconfig
> > +++ b/security/Kconfig
> > @@ -51,6 +51,24 @@ config PROC_MEM_NO_FORCE
> >
> > endchoice
> >
> > +config MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS
> > + bool "mseal system mappings"
> > + depends on 64BIT
> > + depends on ARCH_HAS_MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS
> > + depends on !CHECKPOINT_RESTORE
> > + help
> > + Seal system mappings such as vdso, vvar, sigpage, uprobes, etc.
>
> Let's be specific here, 'etc.' could mean _anything_. Also you aren't
> sealing most of this, let's just list what you are _actually_ sealing
> here. Which is AFAIK VDSO only?
>
I will remove "etc" and list all the mappings.
Those mappings are:
vdso, vvar, vvar_vclock, vectors (arm compact-mode) and sigpage (arm
compact-mode), uprobe.
We seal all system mappings that x86-64 and arm64 have.
> You can update this later as time goes on if/when you expand this.
>
> > +
> > + A 64-bit kernel is required for the memory sealing feature.
> > + No specific hardware features from the CPU are needed.
> > +
> > + Note: CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, UML, gVisor, rr are known to relocate or
> > + unmap system mapping, therefore this config can't be enabled
> > + universally.
>
> Thanks for putting this here, appreciate it!
>
> Could we tweak this though? I'd like to make it crystal clear, so I don't
> think 'note' sufficies and this sounds a little too vague.
>
> I think 'warning' is more appropriate here since you're breaking things for
> people who might be unaware. And we need to say this -breaks- programs:
>
> WARNING: This feature breaks programs which rely on relocating or
> unmapping system mappings.
>
> Known broken software at the time of writing includes
> CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, UML, gVisor and rr.
>
> I think this is critical.
>
Sure.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-26 1:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-24 22:52 [PATCH v7 0/7] mseal system mappings jeffxu
2025-02-24 22:52 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] mseal, system mappings: kernel config and header change jeffxu
2025-02-25 6:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 1:33 ` Jeff Xu [this message]
2025-02-26 6:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-28 0:04 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-28 10:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 15:22 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-25 15:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 0:04 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 22:52 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] selftests: x86: test_mremap_vdso: skip if vdso is msealed jeffxu
2025-02-25 6:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 22:37 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 5:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-24 22:52 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] mseal, system mappings: enable x86-64 jeffxu
2025-02-25 1:03 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-26 0:21 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-25 8:08 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-02-26 0:48 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 7:35 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-02-27 21:44 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 22:52 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] mseal, system mappings: enable arm64 jeffxu
2025-02-25 6:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 22:26 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 5:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 17:11 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-26 17:17 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 17:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 18:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-28 0:48 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-28 10:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-24 22:52 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] mseal, system mappings: enable uml architecture jeffxu
2025-02-25 6:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 8:45 ` Berg, Benjamin
2025-02-25 10:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 12:24 ` Benjamin Berg
2025-02-25 13:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 13:59 ` Johannes Berg
2025-02-25 15:06 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-25 15:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 18:38 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-26 0:00 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 22:52 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] mseal, system mappings: uprobe mapping jeffxu
2025-02-25 6:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 0:06 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 5:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 16:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 16:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 16:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 18:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 18:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 18:19 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-26 18:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 18:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-27 23:38 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-28 10:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-27 21:48 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-24 22:52 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] mseal, system mappings: update mseal.rst jeffxu
2025-02-24 23:03 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] mseal system mappings Pedro Falcato
2025-02-24 23:07 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-25 6:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 10:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 0:17 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 6:00 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-27 23:43 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-28 10:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-25 15:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-26 0:12 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-26 5:42 ` your mail Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-28 0:55 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-28 9:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-28 17:24 ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-28 17:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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