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From: Charles Mirabile <cmirabil@redhat.com>
To: "Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v23 24/28] arch/riscv: dual vdso creation logic and select vdso based on hw
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 12:18:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABe3_aH6wRzKt+f8RyG+0mN0Kyu2eASRn4URxgU4R-zEmdwBgA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251204175055-fefb76ff-2ff2-48b8-b92c-3d3ce33ec9f5@linutronix.de>

On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 12:04 PM Thomas Weißschuh
<thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 04:43:22PM -0800, Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay wrote:
> > From: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
> >
> > Shadow stack instructions are taken from zimop (mandated on RVA23).
> > Any hardware prior to RVA23 profile will fault on shadow stack instruction.
> > Any userspace with shadow stack instruction in it will fault on such
> > hardware. Thus such userspace can't be brought onto such a hardware.
> >
> > It's not known how userspace will respond to such binary fragmentation.
> > However in order to keep kernel portable across such different hardware,
> > `arch/riscv/kernel/vdso_cfi` is created which has logic (Makefile) to
> > compile `arch/riscv/kernel/vdso` sources with cfi flags and then changes
> > in `arch/riscv/kernel/vdso.c` for selecting appropriate vdso depending
> > on whether underlying hardware(cpu) implements zimop extension. Offset
> > of vdso symbols will change due to having two different vdso binaries,
> > there is added logic to include new generated vdso offset header and
> > dynamically select offset (like for rt_sigreturn).
>
> If the used vDSO variant only depends on the hardware and nothing else,
> why not use alternative patching and avoid the complexity?
> I see that RISCV_ALTERNATIVE depends on !XIP_KERNEL but the vDSO code is
> moved to dynamically allocated memory in any case, so it is patchable.

These instructions are emitted by the toolchain in the C code, so a
traditional approach with alternatives is not exactly feasible. Maybe
you could do it by scan the binary for them, but that sounds dubious.

>
> > Signed-off-by: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
> > Acked-by: Charles Mirabile <cmirabil@redhat.com>
>
> (...)
>



  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-04 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-13  0:42 [PATCH v23 00/28] riscv control-flow integrity for usermode Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:42 ` [PATCH v23 01/28] mm: VM_SHADOW_STACK definition for riscv Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:14   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 02/28] dt-bindings: riscv: zicfilp and zicfiss in dt-bindings (extensions.yaml) Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 03/28] riscv: zicfiss / zicfilp enumeration Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:36   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 04/28] riscv: zicfiss / zicfilp extension csr and bit definitions Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:37   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 05/28] riscv: usercfi state for task and save/restore of CSR_SSP on trap entry/exit Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 06/28] riscv/mm : ensure PROT_WRITE leads to VM_READ | VM_WRITE Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:41   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 07/28] riscv/mm: manufacture shadow stack pte Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:41   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 08/28] riscv/mm: teach pte_mkwrite to manufacture shadow stack PTEs Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:43   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 09/28] riscv/mm: write protect and shadow stack Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:45   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 10/28] riscv/mm: Implement map_shadow_stack() syscall Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:46   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 11/28] riscv/shstk: If needed allocate a new shadow stack on clone Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 12/28] riscv: Implements arch agnostic shadow stack prctls Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:47   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 13/28] prctl: arch-agnostic prctl for indirect branch tracking Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:48   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 14/28] riscv: Implements arch agnostic indirect branch tracking prctls Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:48   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 15/28] riscv/traps: Introduce software check exception and uprobe handling Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:53   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 16/28] riscv: signal: abstract header saving for setup_sigcontext Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 14:56   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 17/28] riscv/signal: save and restore of shadow stack for signal Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 18/28] riscv/kernel: update __show_regs to print shadow stack register Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 15:00   ` [PATCH v23 16/28] riscv: signal: abstract header saving for setup_sigcontext[PATCH " Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 19/28] riscv/ptrace: riscv cfi status and state via ptrace and in core files Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 20/28] riscv/hwprobe: zicfilp / zicfiss enumeration in hwprobe Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 21/28] riscv: kernel command line option to opt out of user cfi Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-19 16:24   ` Paul Walmsley
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 22/28] riscv: enable kernel access to shadow stack memory via FWFT sbi call Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 15:02   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 23/28] arch/riscv: compile vdso with landing pad and shadow stack note Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 15:02   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 24/28] arch/riscv: dual vdso creation logic and select vdso based on hw Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 15:04   ` Andreas Korb
2025-12-04 16:56   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-12-04 17:18     ` Charles Mirabile [this message]
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 25/28] riscv: create a config for shadow stack and landing pad instr support Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-12-04 15:04   ` Andreas Korb
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 26/28] riscv: Documentation for landing pad / indirect branch tracking Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 27/28] riscv: Documentation for shadow stack on riscv Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-13  0:43 ` [PATCH v23 28/28] kselftest/riscv: kselftest for user mode cfi Deepak Gupta via B4 Relay
2025-11-19 16:40 ` [PATCH v23 00/28] riscv control-flow integrity for usermode patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2025-11-27  8:30 ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2025-11-27 21:14   ` Paul Walmsley
2025-12-03 16:31 ` Valentin Haudiquet

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