From: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
To: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Ethan Graham <ethan.w.s.graham@gmail.com>,
glider@google.com, andreyknvl@gmail.com, andy@kernel.org,
andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, brauner@kernel.org,
brendan.higgins@linux.dev, davem@davemloft.net,
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sj@kernel.org, tarasmadan@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/10] KFuzzTest: a new kernel fuzzing framework
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2025 17:53:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABVgOSkbV0idRzeMmsUEtDo=U5Tzqc116mt_=jqW-xsToec_wQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbc99cb2-4415-4757-8808-67bf7926fed4@linuxfoundation.org>
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 at 08:07, Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On 12/4/25 07:12, Ethan Graham wrote:
> > This patch series introduces KFuzzTest, a lightweight framework for
> > creating in-kernel fuzz targets for internal kernel functions.
> >
> > The primary motivation for KFuzzTest is to simplify the fuzzing of
> > low-level, relatively stateless functions (e.g., data parsers, format
> > converters) that are difficult to exercise effectively from the syscall
> > boundary. It is intended for in-situ fuzzing of kernel code without
> > requiring that it be built as a separate userspace library or that its
> > dependencies be stubbed out. Using a simple macro-based API, developers
> > can add a new fuzz target with minimal boilerplate code.
> >
> > The core design consists of three main parts:
> > 1. The `FUZZ_TEST(name, struct_type)` and `FUZZ_TEST_SIMPLE(name)`
> > macros that allow developers to easily define a fuzz test.
> > 2. A binary input format that allows a userspace fuzzer to serialize
> > complex, pointer-rich C structures into a single buffer.
> > 3. Metadata for test targets, constraints, and annotations, which is
> > emitted into dedicated ELF sections to allow for discovery and
> > inspection by userspace tools. These are found in
> > ".kfuzztest_{targets, constraints, annotations}".
> >
> > As of September 2025, syzkaller supports KFuzzTest targets out of the
> > box, and without requiring any hand-written descriptions - the fuzz
> > target and its constraints + annotations are the sole source of truth.
> >
> > To validate the framework's end-to-end effectiveness, we performed an
> > experiment by manually introducing an off-by-one buffer over-read into
> > pkcs7_parse_message, like so:
> >
> > - ret = asn1_ber_decoder(&pkcs7_decoder, ctx, data, datalen);
> > + ret = asn1_ber_decoder(&pkcs7_decoder, ctx, data, datalen + 1);
> >
> > A syzkaller instance fuzzing the new test_pkcs7_parse_message target
> > introduced in patch 7 successfully triggered the bug inside of
> > asn1_ber_decoder in under 30 seconds from a cold start. Similar
> > experiments on the other new fuzz targets (patches 8-9) also
> > successfully identified injected bugs, proving that KFuzzTest is
> > effective when paired with a coverage-guided fuzzing engine.
> >
>
> As discussed at LPC, the tight tie between one single external user-space
> tool isn't something I am in favor of. The reason being, if the userspace
> app disappears all this kernel code stays with no way to trigger.
>
> Ethan and I discussed at LPC and I asked Ethan to come up with a generic way
> to trigger the fuzz code that doesn't solely depend on a single users-space
> application.
>
FWIW, the included kfuzztest-bridge utility works fine as a separate,
in-tree way of triggering the fuzz code. It's definitely not totally
standalone, but can be useful with some ad-hoc descriptions and piping
through /dev/urandom or similar. (Personally, I think it'd be a really
nice way of distributing reproducers.)
The only thing really missing would be having the kfuzztest-bridge
interface descriptions available (or, ideally, autogenerated somehow).
Maybe a simple wrapper to run it in a loop as a super-basic
(non-guided) fuzzer, if you wanted to be fancy.
-- David
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-17 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-04 14:12 Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/kasan: implement kasan_poison_range Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 15:17 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-12-04 15:31 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 02/10] kfuzztest: add user-facing API and data structures Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 03/10] kfuzztest: introduce the FUZZ_TEST_SIMPLE macro Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 05/10] tools: add kfuzztest-bridge utility Ethan Graham
2025-12-07 6:38 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 06/10] kfuzztest: add ReST documentation Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 07/10] kfuzztest: add KFuzzTest sample fuzz targets Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 08/10] crypto: implement KFuzzTest targets for PKCS7 and RSA parsing Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 09/10] drivers/auxdisplay: add a KFuzzTest for parse_xy() Ethan Graham
2025-12-04 15:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 15:28 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 15:32 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-04 15:34 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 15:35 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-04 15:42 ` Marco Elver
2025-12-04 15:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-12-04 17:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-04 21:38 ` Ethan Graham
2025-12-08 0:58 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-04 14:12 ` [PATCH 10/10] MAINTAINERS: add maintainer information for KFuzzTest Ethan Graham
2025-12-12 8:01 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] KFuzzTest: a new kernel fuzzing framework Luis Chamberlain
2025-12-12 15:09 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-13 0:06 ` Shuah Khan
2025-12-17 9:53 ` David Gow [this message]
2025-12-17 10:19 ` Alexander Potapenko
2025-12-17 10:31 ` Johannes Berg
2025-12-17 1:08 ` Wentao Zhang
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