From: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
To: Gong Ruiqi <gongruiqi1@huawei.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
Wang Weiyang <wangweiyang2@huawei.com>,
Xiu Jianfeng <xiujianfeng@huawei.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
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David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2] Randomized slab caches for kmalloc()
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 07:35:57 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAB=+i9R0GZiau7PKDSGdCOijPH1TVqA3rJ5tQLejJpoR55h6dg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5f5a858a-7017-5424-0fa0-db3b79e5d95e@huawei.com>
[Resending this email after noticing I did not reply-to-all]
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 7:11 PM Gong Ruiqi <gongruiqi1@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2023/05/11 2:43, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> > I dont think adding a hardening feature by sacrificing one digit
> > percent performance
> > (and additional complexity) is worth. Heap spraying can only occur
> > when the kernel contains
> > security vulnerabilities, and if there is no known ways of performing
> > such an attack,
> > then we would simply be paying a consistent cost.
> >
> > Any opinions from hardening folks?
>
> I did a more throughout performance test on the same machine in the same
> way, and here are the results:
>
> sched/ sched/ syscall/ mem/ mem/
> messaging pipe basic memcpy memset
> control1 0.019 5.459 0.733 15.258789 51.398026
> control2 0.019 5.439 0.730 16.009221 48.828125
> control3 0.019 5.282 0.735 16.009221 48.828125
> control_avg 0.019 5.393 0.733 15.759077 49.684759
>
> exp1 0.019 5.374 0.741 15.500992 46.502976
> exp2 0.019 5.440 0.746 16.276042 51.398026
> exp3 0.019 5.242 0.752 15.258789 51.398026
> exp_avg 0.019 5.352 0.746 15.678608 49.766343
>
> I believe the results show only minor differences and normal
> fluctuation, and no substantial performance degradation.
>
> As Pedro points out in his reply, unfortunately there are always
> security vulnerabilities in the kernel, which is a fact that we have to
> admit. Having a useful mitigation mechanism at the expense of a little
> performance loss would be, in my opinion, quite a good deal in many
> circumstances. And people can still choose not to have it by setting the
> config to n.
Okay, now I don't think I need to tackle it from a performance
perspective anymore, at least it looks like a good tradeoff.
I had few design level concerns (i.e. in ARM64 instructions are 4-byte
aligned) before switching to hash_64(^ random sequence), but looks
good to me now.
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES
> >> +# define SLAB_RANDOMSLAB ((slab_flags_t __force)0x01000000U)
> >> +#else
> >> +# define SLAB_RANDOMSLAB 0
> >> +#endif
There is already the SLAB_KMALLOC flag that indicates if a cache is a
kmalloc cache. I think that would be enough for preventing merging
kmalloc caches?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-16 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-08 7:55 GONG, Ruiqi
2023-05-10 18:43 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-10 19:32 ` Pedro Falcato
2023-05-12 10:11 ` Gong Ruiqi
2023-05-14 9:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-05-15 8:20 ` Gong Ruiqi
2023-05-16 22:35 ` Hyeonggon Yoo [this message]
2023-05-22 7:35 ` Gong Ruiqi
2023-05-22 8:03 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-22 8:58 ` GONG, Ruiqi
2023-05-24 5:54 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-31 3:47 ` GONG, Ruiqi
2023-05-11 12:30 ` xiujianfeng
2023-05-11 14:54 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-15 6:26 ` Gong Ruiqi
2023-05-16 12:43 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-16 19:34 ` Kees Cook
2023-05-31 7:59 ` Gong Ruiqi
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