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From: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
To: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
Cc: "Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/22] vfio/pci: Register a file handler with Live Update Orchestrator
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 14:50:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAywjhShWTQbkwhDYB=9a_PZjGHnJ-=HTLAzDBvnDsmtvP=Auw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZ931bYILhhkhW-Y@google.com>

On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 2:29 PM Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 10:06:18PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 02:33:28PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 21:24:51 +0000
> > > David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c b/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c
> > > > index 0c771064c0b8..19e88322af2c 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c
> > > > @@ -258,6 +258,10 @@ static int __init vfio_pci_init(void)
> > > >   int ret;
> > > >   bool is_disable_vga = true;
> > > >
> > > > + ret = vfio_pci_liveupdate_init();
> > > > + if (ret)
> > > > +         return ret;
> > > > +
> > > >  #ifdef CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_VGA
> > > >   is_disable_vga = disable_vga;
> > > >  #endif
> > > > @@ -266,8 +270,10 @@ static int __init vfio_pci_init(void)
> > > >
> > > >   /* Register and scan for devices */
> > > >   ret = pci_register_driver(&vfio_pci_driver);
> > > > - if (ret)
> > > > + if (ret) {
> > > > +         vfio_pci_liveupdate_cleanup();
> > > >           return ret;
> > > > + }
> > > >
> > > >   vfio_pci_fill_ids();
> > > >
> > > > @@ -281,6 +287,7 @@ module_init(vfio_pci_init);
> > > >  static void __exit vfio_pci_cleanup(void)
> > > >  {
> > > >   pci_unregister_driver(&vfio_pci_driver);
> > > > + vfio_pci_liveupdate_cleanup();
> > > >  }
> > > >  module_exit(vfio_pci_cleanup);
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_liveupdate.c b/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_liveupdate.c
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 000000000000..b84e63c0357b
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_liveupdate.c
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@
> > > ...
> > > > +static const struct liveupdate_file_ops vfio_pci_liveupdate_file_ops = {
> > > > + .can_preserve = vfio_pci_liveupdate_can_preserve,
> > > > + .preserve = vfio_pci_liveupdate_preserve,
> > > > + .unpreserve = vfio_pci_liveupdate_unpreserve,
> > > > + .retrieve = vfio_pci_liveupdate_retrieve,
> > > > + .finish = vfio_pci_liveupdate_finish,
> > > > + .owner = THIS_MODULE,
> > > > +};
> > > > +
> > > > +static struct liveupdate_file_handler vfio_pci_liveupdate_fh = {
> > > > + .ops = &vfio_pci_liveupdate_file_ops,
> > > > + .compatible = VFIO_PCI_LUO_FH_COMPATIBLE,
> > > > +};
> > > > +
> > > > +int __init vfio_pci_liveupdate_init(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > + if (!liveupdate_enabled())
> > > > +         return 0;
> > > > +
> > > > + return liveupdate_register_file_handler(&vfio_pci_liveupdate_fh);
> > > > +}
> > >
> > > liveupdate_register_file_handler() "pins" vfio-pci with a
> > > try_module_get().  Since this is done in our module_init function and
> > > unregister occurs in our module_exit function, rather than relative
> > > to any actual device binding or usage, this means vfio-pci CANNOT be
> > > unloaded.  That seems bad.  Thanks,
> >
> > Hmm... IIUC the concern here is about liveupdate policy if the user
> > wants to unload a module which was previously marked for preservation?
> >
> > AFAICT, In such a case, the user is expected to close the LUO session FD,
> > which "unpreserves" the FD. Finally, when rmmod is executed, the __exit
> > (vfio_pci_cleanup) calls vfio_pci_liveupdate_cleanup() which ends up
> > calling liveupdate_unregister_file_handler(), thereby dropping the ref
> > held by the liveupdate orchestrator which allows the module to be
> > unloaded.
> >
>
> Ohh wait, You're right, Alex. I just realized the __exit won't even be
> reached because of the internal pin. The current implementation creates
> a catch-22 where the module pins itself during init and can't reach the
> unregister call in exit. I believe we should drop the ref when the user
> closes the session FD? Additionally, should we move try_module_get out of
> the global liveupdate_register_file_handler() and instead take the ref
> only when a file is actually marked for preservation?

If we don't do try_module_get during registration, the registered file
handler can go away on module unload while LUO is using the handler
during FD preservation. This makes it racy. Maybe register/unregister
need to move outside the module_init/exit.
>
> Thanks,
> Praan
>
> > I think we should document this policy somewhere or have a dev_warn to
> > scream at the users when they try unloading the module without closing
> > the session FD.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Praan
> >
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +void vfio_pci_liveupdate_cleanup(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > + if (!liveupdate_enabled())
> > > > +         return;
> > > > +
> > > > + liveupdate_unregister_file_handler(&vfio_pci_liveupdate_fh);
> > > > +}


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-25 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-29 21:24 [PATCH v2 00/22] vfio/pci: Base Live Update support for VFIO device files David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 01/22] liveupdate: Export symbols needed by modules David Matlack
2026-02-24  8:26   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 17:08   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 02/22] PCI: Add API to track PCI devices preserved across Live Update David Matlack
2026-02-01  6:38   ` Zhu Yanjun
2026-02-02 18:14     ` David Matlack
2026-02-04  0:10       ` Yanjun.Zhu
2026-02-20 19:03         ` David Matlack
2026-02-23 22:04   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-23 23:08     ` David Matlack
2026-02-23 23:43       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-24  0:00         ` David Matlack
2026-02-24  9:17   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 17:33     ` David Matlack
2026-02-24 19:02       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 19:05         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-25 22:46   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-02-26  0:28     ` David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 03/22] PCI: Inherit bus numbers from previous kernel during " David Matlack
2026-02-24  9:36   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 17:36     ` David Matlack
2026-02-25 22:47   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-02-25 23:20     ` David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 04/22] vfio/pci: Register a file handler with Live Update Orchestrator David Matlack
2026-02-06 22:37   ` Yanjun.Zhu
2026-02-06 23:14     ` David Matlack
2026-02-24  9:58       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-25 21:33   ` Alex Williamson
2026-02-25 22:06     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-25 22:29       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-25 22:50         ` Samiullah Khawaja [this message]
2026-02-25 23:15     ` David Matlack
2026-02-25 23:54       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 05/22] vfio/pci: Preserve vfio-pci device files across Live Update David Matlack
2026-02-23 22:29   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-24 18:37   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 19:16     ` David Matlack
2026-02-25 22:41   ` Alex Williamson
2026-02-25 23:41     ` David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 06/22] vfio/pci: Retrieve preserved device files after " David Matlack
2026-02-23 23:27   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-24 19:19   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 07/22] vfio/pci: Notify PCI subsystem about devices preserved across " David Matlack
2026-02-25  7:55   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-26  0:45     ` David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 08/22] vfio: Enforce preserved devices are retrieved via LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_RETRIEVE_FD David Matlack
2026-02-25  8:03   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 09/22] vfio/pci: Store incoming Live Update state in struct vfio_pci_core_device David Matlack
2026-02-25  8:38   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-26  0:51     ` David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 10/22] vfio/pci: Skip reset of preserved device after Live Update David Matlack
2026-01-29 22:21   ` Jacob Pan
2026-01-29 22:33     ` David Matlack
2026-01-30  0:31       ` Jacob Pan
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 11/22] docs: liveupdate: Document VFIO device file preservation David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 12/22] selftests/liveupdate: Move luo_test_utils.* into a reusable library David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 13/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add helpers to preserve/retrieve FDs David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 14/22] vfio: selftests: Build liveupdate library in VFIO selftests David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 15/22] vfio: selftests: Add Makefile support for TEST_GEN_PROGS_EXTENDED David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 16/22] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 17/22] vfio: selftests: Initialize vfio_pci_device using a VFIO cdev FD David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 18/22] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 19/22] vfio: selftests: Expose iommu_modes to tests David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 20/22] vfio: selftests: Expose low-level helper routines for setting up struct vfio_pci_device David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 21/22] vfio: selftests: Verify that opening VFIO device fails during Live Update David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 22/22] vfio: selftests: Add continuous DMA to vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test David Matlack

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