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From: "Zach O'Keefe" <zokeefe@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	 Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	 Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	Manish Mishra <manish.mishra@nutanix.com>,
	 Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	 "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	 Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/46] mm: add MADV_SPLIT to enable HugeTLB HGM
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 16:01:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAa6QmRzg7N74dZyqZoLWspPqbRkOAiJHheW39=QD91XBzbOeg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <797b85c0-ec50-f340-30dd-5a63b51dc45a@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 7:29 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 05.01.23 11:18, James Houghton wrote:
> > Issuing ioctl(MADV_SPLIT) on a HugeTLB address range will enable
> > HugeTLB HGM. MADV_SPLIT was chosen for the name so that this API can be
> > applied to non-HugeTLB memory in the future, if such an application is
> > to arise.
> >
> > MADV_SPLIT provides several API changes for some syscalls on HugeTLB
> > address ranges:
> > 1. UFFDIO_CONTINUE is allowed for MAP_SHARED VMAs at PAGE_SIZE
> >     alignment.
> > 2. read()ing a page fault event from a userfaultfd will yield a
> >     PAGE_SIZE-rounded address, instead of a huge-page-size-rounded
> >     address (unless UFFD_FEATURE_EXACT_ADDRESS is used).
> >
> > There is no way to disable the API changes that come with issuing
> > MADV_SPLIT. MADV_COLLAPSE can be used to collapse high-granularity page
> > table mappings that come from the extended functionality that comes with
> > using MADV_SPLIT.
> >
> > For post-copy live migration, the expected use-case is:
> > 1. mmap(MAP_SHARED, some_fd) primary mapping
> > 2. mmap(MAP_SHARED, some_fd) alias mapping
> > 3. MADV_SPLIT the primary mapping
> > 4. UFFDIO_REGISTER/etc. the primary mapping
> > 5. Copy memory contents into alias mapping and UFFDIO_CONTINUE the
> >     corresponding PAGE_SIZE sections in the primary mapping.
> >
> > More API changes may be added in the future.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
> > ---
> >   arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/mman.h     |  2 ++
> >   arch/mips/include/uapi/asm/mman.h      |  2 ++
> >   arch/parisc/include/uapi/asm/mman.h    |  2 ++
> >   arch/xtensa/include/uapi/asm/mman.h    |  2 ++
> >   include/linux/hugetlb.h                |  2 ++
> >   include/uapi/asm-generic/mman-common.h |  2 ++
> >   mm/hugetlb.c                           |  3 +--
> >   mm/madvise.c                           | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   8 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/mman.h b/arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/mman.h
> > index 763929e814e9..7a26f3648b90 100644
> > --- a/arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/mman.h
> > +++ b/arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/mman.h
> > @@ -78,6 +78,8 @@
> >
> >   #define MADV_COLLAPSE       25              /* Synchronous hugepage collapse */
> >
> > +#define MADV_SPLIT   26              /* Enable hugepage high-granularity APIs */
>
> I think we should make a split more generic, such that it also splits
> (pte-maps) a THP. Has that been discussed?


Thanks James / David.

MADV_SPLIT for THP has come up a few times; firstly, during the
initial RFC about hugepage collapse in process context, as the natural
inverse operation required by a generic userspace-managed hugepage
daemon, the second -- which is more immediately practical -- is to
avoid stranding THPs on the deferred split queue (and thus still
incurring the memcg charge) for too long [1].

However, its exact semantics / API have yet to be discussed / flushed
out (though I'm planning to do exactly this in the near-term).

Just as James has co-opted MADV_COLLAPSE for hugetlb, we can co-opt
MADV_SPLIT for THP, when the time comes -- which I think makes a lot
of sense.

Hopefully I can get my ducks in order to start a discussion about this
eminently.

Best,
Zach

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/YZ9kUD5AG6inbUEg@xz-m1.local/

> --
> Thanks,
>
> David / dhildenb
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-10  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-05 10:17 [PATCH 00/46] Based on latest mm-unstable (85b44c25cd1e) James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:17 ` [PATCH 01/46] hugetlb: don't set PageUptodate for UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 02/46] hugetlb: remove mk_huge_pte; it is unused James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 03/46] hugetlb: remove redundant pte_mkhuge in migration path James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 04/46] hugetlb: only adjust address ranges when VMAs want PMD sharing James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 05/46] hugetlb: add CONFIG_HUGETLB_HIGH_GRANULARITY_MAPPING James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 06/46] mm: add VM_HUGETLB_HGM VMA flag James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 07/46] hugetlb: rename __vma_shareable_flags_pmd to __vma_has_hugetlb_vma_lock James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 08/46] hugetlb: add HugeTLB HGM enablement helpers James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 09/46] mm: add MADV_SPLIT to enable HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-01-05 15:05   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-05 15:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-10  0:01     ` Zach O'Keefe [this message]
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 10/46] hugetlb: make huge_pte_lockptr take an explicit shift argument James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 11/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_pte to track HugeTLB page table entries James Houghton
2023-01-05 16:06   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 12/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_alloc_pmd and hugetlb_alloc_pte James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 13/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_hgm_walk and hugetlb_walk_step James Houghton
2023-01-05 16:57   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-05 18:58   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-11 21:51   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 13:38     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 14/46] hugetlb: add make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 15/46] hugetlb: make default arch_make_huge_pte understand small mappings James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 16/46] hugetlbfs: do a full walk to check if vma maps a page James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 17/46] hugetlb: make unmapping compatible with high-granularity mappings James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 18/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for hugetlb_change_protection James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 19/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for follow_hugetlb_page James Houghton
2023-01-05 22:26   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 18:02   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 18:06     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 20/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for hugetlb_follow_page_mask James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 21/46] hugetlb: use struct hugetlb_pte for walk_hugetlb_range James Houghton
2023-01-05 22:42   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-11 22:58   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 14:06     ` James Houghton
2023-01-12 15:29       ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 16:45         ` James Houghton
2023-01-12 16:55           ` James Houghton
2023-01-12 20:27           ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 21:17             ` James Houghton
2023-01-12 21:33               ` Peter Xu
2023-01-16 10:17                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-17 23:11                   ` James Houghton
2023-01-18  9:43                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-18 15:35                       ` Peter Xu
2023-01-18 16:39                         ` James Houghton
2023-01-18 18:21                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-18 19:28                           ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-19 16:57                             ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 17:31                               ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-19 19:42                                 ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 20:53                                   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 22:45                                     ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 22:00                                   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-19 22:23                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 22:35                                       ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 23:07                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 23:26                                           ` James Houghton
2023-01-20 17:23                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 23:44                                           ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-23 15:19                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-01-23 17:49                                               ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-26 16:58                                   ` James Houghton
2023-01-26 20:30                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-01-27 21:02                                       ` James Houghton
2023-01-30 17:29                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-01-30 18:38                                           ` James Houghton
2023-01-30 21:14                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-02-01  0:24                                               ` James Houghton
2023-02-01  1:24                                                 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-01 15:45                                                   ` James Houghton
2023-02-01 15:56                                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-01 17:58                                                       ` James Houghton
2023-02-01 18:01                                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-01 16:22                                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-02-01 21:32                                                       ` James Houghton
2023-02-01 21:51                                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-02-02  0:24                                                           ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 16:30                                                             ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 22:46                                                               ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:13                                                                 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-08  0:26                                                                   ` James Houghton
2023-02-08 16:16                                                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 16:43                                                                       ` James Houghton
2023-02-09 19:10                                                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 19:49                                                                           ` James Houghton
2023-02-09 20:22                                                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-01-18 17:08                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 22/46] mm: rmap: provide pte_order in page_vma_mapped_walk James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 23/46] mm: rmap: make page_vma_mapped_walk callers use pte_order James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 24/46] rmap: update hugetlb lock comment for HGM James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 25/46] hugetlb: update page_vma_mapped to do high-granularity walks James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 26/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for copy_hugetlb_page_range James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 27/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for move_hugetlb_page_tables James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 28/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for hugetlb_fault and hugetlb_no_page James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 29/46] rmap: in try_to_{migrate,unmap}_one, check head page for page flags James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 30/46] hugetlb: add high-granularity migration support James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 31/46] hugetlb: sort hstates in hugetlb_init_hstates James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 32/46] hugetlb: add for_each_hgm_shift James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 33/46] hugetlb: userfaultfd: add support for high-granularity UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 34/46] hugetlb: userfaultfd: when using MADV_SPLIT, round addresses to PAGE_SIZE James Houghton
2023-01-06 15:13   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-10 14:50     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 35/46] hugetlb: add MADV_COLLAPSE for hugetlb James Houghton
2023-01-10 20:04   ` James Houghton
2023-01-17 21:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-17 21:38     ` James Houghton
2023-01-17 21:54       ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 22:37   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 23:06     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 36/46] hugetlb: remove huge_pte_lock and huge_pte_lockptr James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 37/46] hugetlb: replace make_huge_pte with make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 38/46] mm: smaps: add stats for HugeTLB mapping size James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 39/46] hugetlb: x86: enable high-granularity mapping James Houghton
2023-01-12 20:07   ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 40/46] docs: hugetlb: update hugetlb and userfaultfd admin-guides with HGM info James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 41/46] docs: proc: include information about HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 42/46] selftests/vm: add HugeTLB HGM to userfaultfd selftest James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 43/46] selftests/kvm: add HugeTLB HGM to KVM demand paging selftest James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 44/46] selftests/vm: add anon and shared hugetlb to migration test James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 45/46] selftests/vm: add hugetlb HGM test to migration selftest James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 46/46] selftests/vm: add HGM UFFDIO_CONTINUE and hwpoison tests James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:47 ` [PATCH 00/46] Based on latest mm-unstable (85b44c25cd1e) David Hildenbrand
2023-01-09 19:53   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-10 15:47     ` David Hildenbrand

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