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From: Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>
To: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jenifer Hopper <jhopper@us.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
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	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
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	Hugh Dickens <hughd@google.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv13 3/4] zswap: add to mm/
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:42:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA_GA1c8cH1fu9jHk8evKZvK-gpQ+c8NEp5=_jDLKPcMbG_ufA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130620023750.GA1194@cerebellum>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Seth Jennings
<sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 02:20:05PM +0800, Bob Liu wrote:
>> Hi Seth,
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Seth Jennings
>> <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> > zswap is a thin backend for frontswap that takes pages that are in the process
>> > of being swapped out and attempts to compress them and store them in a
>> > RAM-based memory pool.  This can result in a significant I/O reduction on the
>> > swap device and, in the case where decompressing from RAM is faster than
>> > reading from the swap device, can also improve workload performance.
>> >
>> > It also has support for evicting swap pages that are currently compressed in
>> > zswap to the swap device on an LRU(ish) basis. This functionality makes zswap a
>> > true cache in that, once the cache is full, the oldest pages can be moved out
>> > of zswap to the swap device so newer pages can be compressed and stored in
>> > zswap.
>> >
>> > This patch adds the zswap driver to mm/
>> >
>>
>> Do you have any more benchmark can share with me ? To figure out that
>> we can benefit from zswap.
>>
>> I found zswap will cause performance drop when using mmtests-0.10 to test it.
>> The config file I'm using is: config-global-dhp__parallelio-memcachetest
>>
>> The result is:
>> (v3.10-rc4-2G-nozswap was without zswap but the performance is better.)
>>
>>                                          v3.10-rc4                   v3.10-rc4
>>                                      2G-zswap-base                  2G-nozswap
>> Ops memcachetest-0M               604.00 (  0.00%)           1077.00 ( 78.31%)
>> Ops memcachetest-198M             630.00 (  0.00%)           1007.00 ( 59.84%)
>> Ops memcachetest-430M             609.00 (  0.00%)            939.00 ( 54.19%)
>> Ops memcachetest-661M             604.00 (  0.00%)            845.00 ( 39.90%)
>> Ops memcachetest-893M             591.00 (  0.00%)            839.00 ( 41.96%)
>> Ops memcachetest-1125M            599.00 (  0.00%)            781.00 ( 30.38%)
>> Ops memcachetest-1356M            588.00 (  0.00%)            771.00 ( 31.12%)
>> Ops io-duration-0M                  0.00 (  0.00%)              1.00 (-99.00%)
>> Ops io-duration-198M              177.00 (  0.00%)             21.00 ( 88.14%)
>> Ops io-duration-430M              168.00 (  0.00%)             25.00 ( 85.12%)
>> Ops io-duration-661M              214.00 (  0.00%)             30.00 ( 85.98%)
>> Ops io-duration-893M              186.00 (  0.00%)             32.00 ( 82.80%)
>> Ops io-duration-1125M             175.00 (  0.00%)             42.00 ( 76.00%)
>> Ops io-duration-1356M             245.00 (  0.00%)             51.00 ( 79.18%)
>> Ops swaptotal-0M               487760.00 (  0.00%)         459754.00 (  5.74%)
>> Ops swaptotal-198M             563581.00 (  0.00%)         485194.00 ( 13.91%)
>> Ops swaptotal-430M             579472.00 (  0.00%)         500817.00 ( 13.57%)
>> Ops swaptotal-661M             568086.00 (  0.00%)         524209.00 (  7.72%)
>> Ops swaptotal-893M             584405.00 (  0.00%)         509846.00 ( 12.76%)
>> Ops swaptotal-1125M            572992.00 (  0.00%)         534115.00 (  6.78%)
>> Ops swaptotal-1356M            573259.00 (  0.00%)         529814.00 (  7.58%)
>> Ops swapin-0M                  231250.00 (  0.00%)         236069.00 ( -2.08%)
>> Ops swapin-198M                312259.00 (  0.00%)         239149.00 ( 23.41%)
>> Ops swapin-430M                327178.00 (  0.00%)         246803.00 ( 24.57%)
>> Ops swapin-661M                319575.00 (  0.00%)         273644.00 ( 14.37%)
>> Ops swapin-893M                328195.00 (  0.00%)         257327.00 ( 21.59%)
>> Ops swapin-1125M               317345.00 (  0.00%)         271109.00 ( 14.57%)
>> Ops swapin-1356M               312858.00 (  0.00%)         266050.00 ( 14.96%)
>> Ops minorfaults-0M             592150.00 (  0.00%)         646076.00 ( -9.11%)
>> Ops minorfaults-198M           637339.00 (  0.00%)         676441.00 ( -6.14%)
>> Ops minorfaults-430M           626228.00 (  0.00%)         684715.00 ( -9.34%)
>> Ops minorfaults-661M           625089.00 (  0.00%)         670639.00 ( -7.29%)
>> Ops minorfaults-893M           612877.00 (  0.00%)         669723.00 ( -9.28%)
>> Ops minorfaults-1125M          624800.00 (  0.00%)         667025.00 ( -6.76%)
>> Ops minorfaults-1356M          618800.00 (  0.00%)         657600.00 ( -6.27%)
>> Ops majorfaults-0M              67664.00 (  0.00%)          40060.00 ( 40.80%)
>> Ops majorfaults-198M            72377.00 (  0.00%)          39517.00 ( 45.40%)
>> Ops majorfaults-430M            71822.00 (  0.00%)          38895.00 ( 45.85%)
>> Ops majorfaults-661M            70009.00 (  0.00%)          39625.00 ( 43.40%)
>> Ops majorfaults-893M            74988.00 (  0.00%)          38073.00 ( 49.23%)
>> Ops majorfaults-1125M           72458.00 (  0.00%)          38206.00 ( 47.27%)
>> Ops majorfaults-1356M           70549.00 (  0.00%)          37430.00 ( 46.94%)
>
> Just made a mmtests run of my own and got very different results:
>

It's strange, I'll update to rc6 and try again.
By the way, are you using 824 hardware compressor instead of lzo?

> parallelio-memcachetest
>                                          v3.10-rc6                   v3.10-rc6
>                                               base                       zswap
> Ops memcachetest-0M              7815.00 (  0.00%)           7843.00 (  0.36%)
> Ops memcachetest-596M           12116.00 (  0.00%)          12158.00 (  0.35%)
> Ops memcachetest-1989M           2226.00 (  0.00%)           5314.00 (138.72%)
> Ops memcachetest-3382M           1910.00 (  0.00%)           4427.00 (131.78%)
> Ops io-duration-0M                  0.00 (  0.00%)              0.00 (  0.00%)
> Ops io-duration-596M               18.00 (  0.00%)             12.00 ( 33.33%)
> Ops io-duration-1989M              82.00 (  0.00%)             57.00 ( 30.49%)
> Ops io-duration-3382M              91.00 (  0.00%)             94.00 ( -3.30%)
> Ops swaptotal-0M                    0.00 (  0.00%)              0.00 (  0.00%)
> Ops swaptotal-596M                  0.00 (  0.00%)              0.00 (  0.00%)
> Ops swaptotal-1989M            305182.00 (  0.00%)          91508.00 ( 70.02%)
> Ops swaptotal-3382M            353389.00 (  0.00%)          74932.00 ( 78.80%)
> Ops swapin-0M                       0.00 (  0.00%)              0.00 (  0.00%)
> Ops swapin-596M                     0.00 (  0.00%)              0.00 (  0.00%)
> Ops swapin-1989M               131071.00 (  0.00%)          45657.00 ( 65.17%)
> Ops swapin-3382M               135003.00 (  0.00%)          37245.00 ( 72.41%)
> Ops minorfaults-0M            1201113.00 (  0.00%)        1201229.00 ( -0.01%)
> Ops minorfaults-596M          1218437.00 (  0.00%)        1218824.00 ( -0.03%)
> Ops minorfaults-1989M         1260652.00 (  0.00%)        1270762.00 ( -0.80%)
> Ops minorfaults-3382M         1251389.00 (  0.00%)        1248756.00 (  0.21%)
> Ops majorfaults-0M                  0.00 (  0.00%)              0.00 (  0.00%)
> Ops majorfaults-596M               34.00 (  0.00%)              0.00 (  0.00%)
> Ops majorfaults-1989M           16561.00 (  0.00%)           7789.00 ( 52.97%)
> Ops majorfaults-3382M           17031.00 (  0.00%)           6372.00 ( 62.59%)
>
> Basically the results show that once swapping starts (which happens even in the
> 0MB case in your results which is puzzling), zswap reduces swapins by around
> 70% (and as a result swaptotal and majorfaults) and increases memcached
> throughput by over 130% compared to the normal swapping case w/o zswap.
>
> This test illustrates a great use case for zswap.  The test is really designed
> to detect suboptimal page reclaim decisions.  Ideally the memcached pages would
> never reach the end of the inactive LRU and be swapped out.  However, since
> there is a lot of I/O going on, if a memcached page does get put on the
> inactive list, it can quickly move to the end.  In this case, zswap catches the
> page and memcached has a chance to fault it back in from the compressed cache
> before actual swapping to disk occurs.
>
> Seth
>

--
Regards,
--Bob

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-20  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-03 20:33 [PATCHv13 0/4] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
2013-06-03 20:33 ` [PATCHv13 1/4] debugfs: add get/set for atomic types Seth Jennings
2013-06-03 20:33 ` [PATCHv13 2/4] zbud: add to mm/ Seth Jennings
2013-06-05  6:43   ` Bob Liu
2013-06-05 13:55     ` Seth Jennings
2013-06-03 20:33 ` [PATCHv13 3/4] zswap: " Seth Jennings
2013-06-17  6:20   ` Bob Liu
2013-06-17 23:02     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-18 11:50       ` Bob Liu
2013-06-18 12:29       ` Bob Liu
2013-06-19 14:09     ` Seth Jennings
2013-06-19 14:17       ` Bob Liu
2013-06-20  2:37     ` Seth Jennings
2013-06-20  9:42       ` Bob Liu [this message]
2013-06-20 14:23         ` Seth Jennings
2013-06-20 14:35           ` Bob Liu
2013-06-21 15:20             ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-06-21 18:33               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-03 20:33 ` [PATCHv13 4/4] zswap: add documentation Seth Jennings
2013-06-13 12:34 ` [PATCHv13 0/4] zswap: compressed swap caching Bob Liu
2013-06-13 19:06   ` Seth Jennings

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