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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	 Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 Hou Tao <houtao1@huawei.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 4/6] memcg: Use trylock to access memcg stock_lock.
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 16:39:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQLm=gSAh2u3iF4HoGmLEqa-AV0FAEnDqcoFYDgZ06d+gQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z2PQv8dVNBopIiYN@tiehlicka>

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:52 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu 19-12-24 08:27:06, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 19-12-24 08:08:44, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > All that being said, the message I wanted to get through is that atomic
> > > (NOWAIT) charges could be trully reentrant if the stock local lock uses
> > > trylock. We do not need a dedicated gfp flag for that now.
> >
> > And I want to add. Not only we can achieve that, I also think this is
> > desirable because for !RT this will be no functional change and for RT
> > it makes more sense to simply do deterministic (albeit more costly
> > page_counter update) than spin over a lock to use the batch (or learn
> > the batch cannot be used).
>
> So effectively this on top of yours
> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> index f168d223375f..29a831f6109c 100644
> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> @@ -1768,7 +1768,7 @@ static bool consume_stock(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, unsigned int nr_pages,
>                 return ret;
>
>         if (!local_trylock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags)) {
> -               if (gfp_mask & __GFP_TRYLOCK)
> +               if (!gfpflags_allow_blockingk(gfp_mask))
>                         return ret;
>                 local_lock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags);

I don't quite understand such a strong desire to avoid the new GFP flag
especially when it's in mm/internal.h. There are lots of bits left.
It's not like PF_* flags that are limited, but fine
let's try to avoid GFP_TRYLOCK_BIT.

You're correct that in !RT the above will work, but in RT
spin_trylock vs spin_lock might cause spurious direct page_counter
charge instead of batching. It's still correct and unlikely to
cause performance issues, so probably fine, but in other
places like slub.c gfpflags_allow_blocking() is too coarse.
All of GFP_NOWAIT will fall into such 'trylock' category,
more slub bits will be trylock-ing and potentially returning ENOMEM
for existing GPF_NOWAIT users which is not great.

I think we can do better, though it's a bit odd to indicate
trylock gfp mode by _absence_ of flags instead of presence
of __GFP_TRYLOCK bit.

How about the following:

diff --git a/include/linux/gfp.h b/include/linux/gfp.h
index ff9060af6295..f06131d5234f 100644
--- a/include/linux/gfp.h
+++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
@@ -39,6 +39,17 @@ static inline bool gfpflags_allow_blocking(const
gfp_t gfp_flags)
        return !!(gfp_flags & __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM);
 }

+static inline bool gfpflags_allow_spinning(const gfp_t gfp_flags)
+{
+       /*
+        * !__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM -> direct claim is not allowed.
+        * !__GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM -> it's not safe to wake up kswapd.
+        * All GFP_* flags including GFP_NOWAIT use one or both flags.
+        * try_alloc_pages() is the only API that doesn't specify either flag.
+        */
+       return !(gfp_flags & __GFP_RECLAIM);
+}
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_HIGHMEM
 #define OPT_ZONE_HIGHMEM ZONE_HIGHMEM
 #else
diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
index f168d223375f..545d345c22de 100644
--- a/mm/memcontrol.c
+++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
@@ -1768,7 +1768,7 @@ static bool consume_stock(struct mem_cgroup
*memcg, unsigned int nr_pages,
                return ret;

        if (!local_trylock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags)) {
-               if (gfp_mask & __GFP_TRYLOCK)
+               if (!gfpflags_allow_spinning(gfp_mask))
                        return ret;
                local_lock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags);
        }

If that's acceptable then such an approach will work for
my slub.c reentrance changes too.
GPF_NOWAIT users will not be affected.
The slub's trylock mode will be only for my upcoming try_kmalloc()
that won't use either gfp_*_reclaim flag.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-20  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-18  3:07 [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/6] bpf, mm: Introduce try_alloc_pages() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/6] mm, bpf: Introduce try_alloc_pages() for opportunistic page allocation alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  0:05     ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-19  7:18       ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  1:18     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  7:13       ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20  0:41         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  0:10   ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-19  1:39     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/6] mm, bpf: Introduce free_pages_nolock() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  4:58   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18  5:33     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  5:57       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18  6:37         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  6:49           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18  7:25             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  7:40               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  1:45     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  7:03       ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20  0:42         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 4/6] memcg: Use trylock to access memcg stock_lock alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  1:53     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  7:08       ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  7:27         ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  7:52           ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20  0:39             ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2024-12-20  8:24               ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20 16:10                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-20 19:45                   ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-21  7:20                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 5/6] mm, bpf: Use memcg in try_alloc_pages() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 6/6] bpf: Use try_alloc_pages() to allocate pages for bpf needs alexei.starovoitov

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