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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	 Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Hou Tao <houtao1@huawei.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/6] mm, bpf: Introduce free_pages_nolock()
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:43:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQL2ys3zO2TncNXydC6_fbAQ-GrEJMiH3yx9My0AHr2=sA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9433086-04e3-4c58-a7b6-a64d986ab1e2@suse.cz>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 2:11 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 12/10/24 03:39, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> >
> > Introduce free_pages_nolock() that can free a page without taking locks.
> > It relies on trylock only and can be called from any context.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
>
> <snip>
>
> > +/* Can be called while holding raw_spin_lock or from IRQ. RCU must be watching. */
> > +void free_pages_nolock(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
>
> What does "RCU must be watching" mean and why?

Meaning that rcu_is_watching() must be true.
Because pgalloc_tag_get() relies on RCU.
ree_unref_page() and things it calls doesn't use RCU directly,
but it calls tracepoints and they need RCU too.

Hence the comment to say that free_pages_nolock() cannot be
called in _any_ context. Some care needs to be taken.
bpf needs RCU, so we don't allow attach bpf to idle and notrace,
but, last I heard, notrace attr is not 100% reliable on some odd arch-es.

> > +{
> > +     int head = PageHead(page);
> > +     struct alloc_tag *tag = pgalloc_tag_get(page);
> > +
> > +     if (put_page_testzero(page)) {
> > +             __free_unref_page(page, order, FPI_TRYLOCK);
> > +     } else if (!head) {
> > +             pgalloc_tag_sub_pages(tag, (1 << order) - 1);
> > +             while (order-- > 0)
> > +                     __free_unref_page(page + (1 << order), order, FPI_TRYLOCK);
>
> Not your fault for trying to support everything __free_pages did,
> specifically order > 0 pages that are not compound and thus needing this
> extra !head branch. We'd love to get rid of that eventually in
> __free_pages(), but at least I think we don't need to support it in a new
> API and instead any users switching to it should know it's not supported.

Great. Good to know.

> I suppose BFP doesn't need that, right?

Nope.
Initially I wrote above bit as:

void free_pages_nolock(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
{
         if (put_page_testzero(page))
                __free_unref_page(page, order, FPI_TRYLOCK);
}

but then I studied Matthew's commit
e320d3012d25 ("mm/page_alloc.c: fix freeing non-compound pages")

and couldn't convince myself that the race he described
+               get_page(page);
+               free_pages(addr, 3);
+               put_page(page);

will never happen.
It won't happen if bpf is the only user of this api,
but who knows what happens in the future.
So copy-pasted this part just in case.
Will be happy to drop it.

> Maybe if the function was taking a folio instead of page, it would be the
> best as that has to be order-0 or compound by definition. It also wouldn't
> need the order parameter. What do you think, Matthew?

For bpf there is no use case for folios.
All we need is a page order 0 and separately
later kmalloc_nolock() will call it from new_slab().
And I think new_slab() might need order >= 1.
So that's the reason to have order parameter.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-12  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-10  2:39 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/6] bpf, mm: Introduce __GFP_TRYLOCK Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10  2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/6] mm, bpf: Introduce __GFP_TRYLOCK for opportunistic page allocation Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10  5:31   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-10  9:05     ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-10 20:25       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-11 10:08         ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-10 22:06       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 10:19         ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-12 15:07         ` Sebastian Sewior
2024-12-12 15:21           ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-12 15:35             ` Sebastian Sewior
2024-12-12 15:48               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-12 16:00                 ` Sebastian Sewior
2024-12-13 17:44                   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-13 18:44                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-13 18:57                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-13 20:09                       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-13 21:00                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-13 22:02                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-12 21:57               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 21:42     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10  9:01   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-10 21:53     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11  8:38       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12  2:14         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-12  8:54           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-10 18:39   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-10 22:42     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11  8:48       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-10  2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/6] mm, bpf: Introduce free_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10  8:35   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-10 22:49     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-12 14:44       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-12 19:57         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 10:11   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12  1:43     ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2024-12-10  2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 10:53   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-11 11:55     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12  2:49       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-12  9:15         ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-13 14:02           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12 15:15   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-12 19:59     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10  2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/6] memcg: Add __GFP_TRYLOCK support Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 23:47   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-10  2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 5/6] mm, bpf: Use __GFP_ACCOUNT in try_alloc_pages() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 12:05   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12  2:54     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10  2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 6/6] bpf: Use try_alloc_pages() to allocate pages for bpf needs Alexei Starovoitov

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