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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	 Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
	 Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Eddy Z <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	 Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,  Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 03/16] mm: Expose vmap_pages_range() to the rest of the kernel.
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 14:56:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQKqeaHyy010u0ZuXbApd3+8BEztnED37p0oC74+qGgd1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30a722f3-dbf5-4fa3-9079-6574aae4b81d@lucifer.local>

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 1:10 PM Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know what conventions you bpf guys follow, but it's common courtesy
> in the rest of the kernel to do a get_maintainers.pl check and figure out
> who the maintainers/reviews of a part of the kernel you change are,
> and include them in your mailing list.

linux-mm and Johannes was cc-ed.

> On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 02:04:28PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> >
> > The next commit will introduce bpf_arena which is a sparsely populated shared
> > memory region between bpf program and user space process.
> > It will function similar to vmalloc()/vm_map_ram():
> > - get_vm_area()
> > - alloc_pages()
> > - vmap_pages_range()
>
> This tells me absolutely nothing about why it is justified to expose this
> internal interface. You need to put more explanation here along the lines
> of 'we had no other means of achieving what we needed from vmalloc because
> X, Y, Z and are absolutely convinced it poses no risk of breaking anything'.

Full motivation and details are in the cover letter and in the next commit as
commit log of this patch says.
Everyone subscribed to linux-mm has all patches in their mailboxes.

The commit log also mentioned that the next patch does pretty much
what vm_map_ram() does.
Any further details you're looking for?

What 'risk of breaking' are you talking about?

> I mean I see a lot of checks in vmap() that aren't in vmap_pages_range()
> for instance. We good to expose that, not only for you but for any other
> core kernel users?

I could have overlooked something. What specific checks do you have in mind?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-06 22:04 [PATCH bpf-next 00/16] bpf: Introduce BPF arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 01/16] bpf: Allow kfuncs return 'void *' Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 19:40   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-09  0:09     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 19:09       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-10  2:32         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 16:06   ` David Vernet
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 02/16] bpf: Recognize '__map' suffix in kfunc arguments Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 16:57   ` David Vernet
2024-02-09 17:46     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 18:11       ` David Vernet
2024-02-09 18:59         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 19:18           ` David Vernet
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 03/16] mm: Expose vmap_pages_range() to the rest of the kernel Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 21:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-02-07 22:56     ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2024-02-08  5:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2024-02-08 23:55       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  6:36       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-02-14  8:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 04/16] bpf: Introduce bpf_arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 18:40   ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-07 20:55     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 21:11       ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-08  6:26         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 21:58           ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-08 23:36             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 23:50               ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 05/16] bpf: Disasm support for cast_kern/user instructions Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 06/16] bpf: Add x86-64 JIT support for PROBE_MEM32 pseudo instructions Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 07/16] bpf: Add x86-64 JIT support for bpf_cast_user instruction Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 08/16] bpf: Recognize cast_kern/user instructions in the verifier Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 09/16] bpf: Recognize btf_decl_tag("arg:arena") as PTR_TO_ARENA Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 10/16] libbpf: Add __arg_arena to bpf_helpers.h Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 11/16] libbpf: Add support for bpf_arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08  1:15   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08  1:38     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 18:29       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08 18:45         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 18:54           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08 18:59             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 12/16] libbpf: Allow specifying 64-bit integers in map BTF Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08  1:16   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08  1:58     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 18:16       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 13/16] bpf: Tell bpf programs kernel's PAGE_SIZE Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 14/16] bpf: Add helper macro bpf_arena_cast() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 15/16] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_arena_list test Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 17:04   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-08  2:59     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 11:10       ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 16/16] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_arena_htab test Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 12:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next 00/16] bpf: Introduce BPF arena Donald Hunter
2024-02-07 13:33   ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-07 20:16     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 20:12   ` Alexei Starovoitov

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