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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	 Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 14/20] libbpf: Recognize __arena global varaibles.
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:24:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQKY0UKYRUBmUZ8BPUrcx-t-v6iMz7u0AaBUKLB1-CS0qg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZyPDdtV8xyFxpLmPQpKrtO-affGrEfyDkodr_BDHVZcA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 4:09 PM Andrii Nakryiko
<andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 3:37 PM Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2024-02-13 at 15:17 -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > So, at first I thought that having two maps is a bit of a hack.
> > >
> > > yep, that was my instinct as well
> > >
> > > > However, after trying to make it work with only one map I don't really
> > > > like that either :)
> > >
> > > Can you elaborate? see my reply to Alexei, I wonder how did you think
> > > about doing this?
> >
> > Relocations in the ELF file are against a new section: ".arena.1".
> > This works nicely with logic in bpf_program__record_reloc().
> > If single map is used, we effectively need to track two indexes for
> > the map section:
> > - one used for relocations against map variables themselves
> >   (named "generic map reference relocation" in the function code);
> > - one used for relocations against ".arena.1"
> >   (named "global data map relocation" in the function code).
> >
> > This spooked me off:
> > - either bpf_object__init_internal_map() would have a specialized
> >   branch for arenas, as with current approach;
> > - or bpf_program__record_reloc() would have a specialized branch for arenas,
> >   as with one map approach.
>
> Yes, relocations would know about .arena.1, but it's a pretty simple
> check in a few places. We basically have arena *definition* sec_idx
> (corresponding to SEC(".maps")) and arena *data* sec_idx. The latter
> is what is recorded for global variables in .arena.1. We can remember
> this arena data sec_idx in struct bpf_object once during ELF
> processing, and then just special case it internally in a few places.

That was my first attempt and bpf_program__record_reloc()
became a mess.
Currently it does relo search either in internal maps
or in obj->efile.btf_maps_shndx.
Doing double search wasn't nice.
And further, such dual meaning of 'struct bpf_map' object messes
assumptions of bpf_object__shndx_is_maps, bpf_object__shndx_is_data
and the way libbpf treats map->libbpf_type everywhere.

bpf_map__is_internal() cannot really say true or false
for such dual use map.
Then skeleton gen gets ugly.
Needs more public libbpf APIs to use in bpftool gen.
Just a mess.

> The "fake" bpf_map for __arena_internal is user-visible and requires
> autocreate=false tricks, etc. I feel like it's a worse tradeoff from a
> user API perspective than a few extra ARENA-specific internal checks
> (which we already have a few anyways, ARENA is not completely
> transparent internally anyways).

what do you mean 'user visible'?
I can add a filter to avoid generating a pointer for it in a skeleton.
Then it won't be any more visible than other bss/data fake maps.
The 2nd fake arena returns true out of bpf_map__is_internal.

The key comment in the patch:
                /* bpf_object will contain two arena maps:
                 * LIBBPF_MAP_ARENA & BPF_MAP_TYPE_ARENA
                 * and
                 * LIBBPF_MAP_UNSPEC & BPF_MAP_TYPE_ARENA.
                 * The former map->arena will point to latter.
                 */


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-14  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-09  4:05 [PATCH v2 bpf-next 00/20] bpf: Introduce BPF arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 01/20] bpf: Allow kfuncs return 'void *' Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-10  6:49   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 02/20] bpf: Recognize '__map' suffix in kfunc arguments Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 03/20] bpf: Plumb get_unmapped_area() callback into bpf_map_ops Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 04/20] mm: Expose vmap_pages_range() to the rest of the kernel Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-14  8:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-14 20:53     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-15  6:58       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-15 20:50         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-15 21:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-16  9:31           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-16 16:54             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-16 17:18               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-02-18  2:06                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-20  6:57               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 05/20] bpf: Introduce bpf_arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 20:36   ` David Vernet
2024-02-10  4:38     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-12 15:56   ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-12 18:23     ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]   ` <CAP01T75y-E8qjMpn_9E-k8H0QpPdjvYx9MMgx6cxGfmdVat+Xw@mail.gmail.com>
2024-02-12 18:21     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13 23:14   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-13 23:29     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-14  0:03       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-14  0:14         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 06/20] bpf: Disasm support for cast_kern/user instructions Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 07/20] bpf: Add x86-64 JIT support for PROBE_MEM32 pseudo instructions Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 17:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13 22:20     ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]   ` <CAP01T75sq=G5pfYvsYuxfdoFGOqSGrNcamCyA0posFA9pxNWRA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-02-13 22:00     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 08/20] bpf: Add x86-64 JIT support for bpf_cast_user instruction Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-10  1:15   ` Eduard Zingerman
     [not found]   ` <CAP01T76JMbnS3PSpontzWmtSZ9cs97yO772R8zpWH-eHXviLSA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-02-13 22:28     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 09/20] bpf: Recognize cast_kern/user instructions in the verifier Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-10  1:13   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13  2:58     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13 12:01       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 10/20] bpf: Recognize btf_decl_tag("arg:arena") as PTR_TO_ARENA Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13 23:14   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-14  0:26     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:05 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 11/20] libbpf: Add __arg_arena to bpf_helpers.h Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13 23:14   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 12/20] libbpf: Add support for bpf_arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-12 18:12   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-12 20:14     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-12 20:21       ` Eduard Zingerman
     [not found]   ` <CAP01T761B1+paMwrQesjX+zqFwQp8iUzLORueTjTLSHPbJ+0fQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-02-12 19:11     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-13 23:15   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-14  0:32     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 13/20] libbpf: Allow specifying 64-bit integers in map BTF Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-12 18:58   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13 23:15   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-14  0:47     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-14  0:51       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 14/20] libbpf: Recognize __arena global varaibles Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13  0:34   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13  0:44     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13  0:49       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13  2:08         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13 12:48           ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13 23:11   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13 23:17     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-13 23:36       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-14  0:09         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-14  0:16           ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-14  0:29             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-14  1:24           ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2024-02-14 17:24             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-15 23:22               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-16  2:45                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-16  4:51                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-14  1:02     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-14 15:10       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-13 23:15   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 15/20] bpf: Tell bpf programs kernel's PAGE_SIZE Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 16/20] bpf: Add helper macro bpf_arena_cast() Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]   ` <CAP01T743Mzfi9+2yMjB5+m2jpBLvij_tLyLFptkOpCekUn=soA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-02-13 22:35     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-14 16:47       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-14 17:45         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 17/20] selftests/bpf: Add unit tests for bpf_arena_alloc/free_pages Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 23:14   ` David Vernet
2024-02-10  4:35     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-12 16:48       ` David Vernet
     [not found]       ` <CAP01T75qCUabu4-18nYwRDnSyTTgeAgNN3kePY5PXdnoTKt+Cg@mail.gmail.com>
2024-02-13 23:19         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 18/20] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_arena_list test Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 19/20] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_arena_htab test Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  4:06 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 20/20] selftests/bpf: Convert simple page_frag allocator to per-cpu Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]   ` <CAP01T74x-N71rbS+jZ2z+3MPMe5WDeWKV_gWJmDCikV0YOpPFQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-02-14  1:37     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-12 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 00/20] bpf: Introduce BPF arena David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 18:14   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-13 10:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 17:36 ` Barret Rhoden

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