From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH slab v5 5/6] slab: Reuse first bit for OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 17:07:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJuAo5K417ZZ77AA1LM5uZr5O2v1dRrEEue-v39zGVyVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7nh3cxyhmlxds4b2ko36gnxbdfclcxu3eae5irvrd2m6qzqoj@gor7vopfe47z>
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 5:02 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 02:59:08PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 2:44 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 02:31:47PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 2:29 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 02:24:26PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 2:03 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 12:27 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +Suren, Roman
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 06:00:06PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > > > > > > From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Since the combination of valid upper bits in slab->obj_exts with
> > > > > > > > > OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL bit can never happen,
> > > > > > > > > use OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL == (1ull << 0) as a magic sentinel
> > > > > > > > > instead of (1ull << 2) to free up bit 2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are we low on bits that we need to do this or is this good to have
> > > > > > > > optimization but not required?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's a good question. After this change MEMCG_DATA_OBJEXTS and
> > > > > > > OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL will have the same value and they are used with the
> > > > > > > same field (page->memcg_data and slab->obj_exts are aliases). Even if
> > > > > > > page_memcg_data_flags can never be used for slab pages I think
> > > > > > > overlapping these bits is not a good idea and creates additional
> > > > > > > risks. Unless there is a good reason to do this I would advise against
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Completely disagree. You both missed the long discussion
> > > > > > during v4. The other alternative was to increase alignment
> > > > > > and waste memory. Saving the bit is obviously cleaner.
> > > > > > The next patch is using the saved bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will check out that discussion and it would be good to summarize that
> > > > > in the commit message.
> > > >
> > > > Disgaree. It's not a job of a small commit to summarize all options
> > > > that were discussed on the list. That's what the cover letter is for
> > > > and there there are links to all previous threads.
> > >
> > > Currently the commit message is only telling what the patch is doing and
> > > is missing the 'why' part and I think adding the 'why' part would make it
> > > better for future readers i.e. less effort to find why this is being
> > > done this way. (Anyways this is just a nit from me)
> >
> > I think 'why' here is obvious. Free the bit to use it later.
> > From time to time people add a sentence like
> > "this bit will be used in the next patch",
> > but I never do this and sometimes remove it from other people's
> > commits, since "in the next patch" is plenty ambiguous and not helpful.
>
> Yes, the part about the freed bit being used in later patch was clear.
> The part about if we really need it was not obvious and if I understand
> the discussion at [1] (relevant text below), it was not required but
> good to have.
> ```
> > I was going to say "add a new flag to enum objext_flags",
> > but all lower 3 bits of slab->obj_exts pointer are already in use? oh...
> >
> > Maybe need a magic trick to add one more flag,
> > like always align the size with 16?
> >
> > In practice that should not lead to increase in memory consumption
> > anyway because most of the kmalloc-* sizes are already at least
> > 16 bytes aligned.
>
> Yes. That's an option, but I think we can do better.
> OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL doesn't need to consume the bit.
> ```
>
> Anyways no objection from me but Harry had a followup request [2]:
> ```
> This will work, but it would be helpful to add a comment clarifying that
> when bit 0 is set with valid upper bits, it indicates
> MEMCG_DATA_OBJEXTS, but when the upper bits are all zero, it indicates
> OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL.
>
> When someone looks at the code without checking history it might not
> be obvious at first glance.
> ```
>
> I think the above requested comment would be really useful.
... and that comment was added. pretty much verbatim copy paste
of the above. Don't you see it in the patch?
> Suren is
> fixing the condition of VM_BUG_ON_PAGE() in slab_obj_exts(). With this
> patch, I think, that condition will need to be changed again.
That's orthogonal and I'm not convinced it's correct.
slab_obj_exts() is doing the right thing. afaict.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-13 0:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-09 1:00 [PATCH slab v5 0/6] slab: Re-entrant kmalloc_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 1:00 ` [PATCH slab v5 1/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_lock_is_locked() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 1:00 ` [PATCH slab v5 2/6] mm: Allow GFP_ACCOUNT to be used in alloc_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-12 17:11 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-12 17:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-12 17:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-12 17:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-12 17:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-15 5:25 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-09 1:00 ` [PATCH slab v5 3/6] mm: Introduce alloc_frozen_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-12 17:15 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-15 5:17 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-09 1:00 ` [PATCH slab v5 4/6] slab: Make slub local_(try)lock more precise for LOCKDEP Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 1:00 ` [PATCH slab v5 5/6] slab: Reuse first bit for OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-12 19:27 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-12 21:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-12 21:11 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-12 21:26 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-12 21:24 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-12 21:29 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-12 21:31 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-12 21:44 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-12 21:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-13 0:01 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-13 0:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2025-09-13 0:33 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-13 0:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-13 1:12 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-15 7:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-15 15:06 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-15 15:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-15 15:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-15 20:10 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-13 1:16 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-15 6:14 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-09 1:00 ` [PATCH slab v5 6/6] slab: Introduce kmalloc_nolock() and kfree_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-15 12:52 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-15 14:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-16 0:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-16 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-16 1:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-24 0:40 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-24 7:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-24 11:07 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-12 9:33 ` [PATCH slab v5 0/6] slab: Re-entrant kmalloc_nolock() Vlastimil Babka
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