From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Hou Tao <houtao1@huawei.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave()
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 18:49:28 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJtkb3YVM9La_Zo=t_s+DNNrrVhX1gt5KsQUPZTdw_7Eg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e5bdef1-a692-47d5-82b9-96a4f2c68463@suse.cz>
On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 3:55 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 12/11/24 11:53, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > On 12/10/24 03:39, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> >> From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> >>
> >> Similar to local_lock_irqsave() introduce local_trylock_irqsave().
> >> It uses spin_trylock in PREEMPT_RT and always succeeds when !RT.
> >
> > Hmm but is that correct to always succeed? If we're in an nmi, we might be
> > preempting an existing local_(try)lock_irqsave() critical section because
> > disabling irqs doesn't stop NMI's, right?
>
> So unless I'm missing something, it would need to be a new kind of local
> lock to support this trylock operation on !RT?
Ohh. Correct. Forgot about nmi interrupting local_lock_irqsave region in !RT.
> Perhaps based on the same
> principle of a simple active/locked flag that I tried in my sheaves RFC? [1]
> There could be also the advantage that if all (potentially) irq contexts
> (not just nmi) used trylock, it would be sufficient to disable preeemption
> and not interrupts, which is cheaper.
I don't think it's the case.
pushf was slow on old x86.
According to https://www.agner.org/optimize/instruction_tables.pdf
it's 3 uops on skylake.
That could be faster than preempt_disable (incl %gs:addr)
which is 3-4 uops assuming cache hit.
> The RT variant could work as you proposed here, that was wrong in my RFC as
> you already pointed out when we discussed v1 of this series.
>
> [1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241112-slub-percpu-caches-v1-5-ddc0bdc27e05@suse.cz/
I like your
+struct local_tryirq_lock
approach, but let's put it in local_lock.h ?
and it probably needs local_inc_return() instead of READ/WRITE_ONCE.
With irq and nmis it's racy.
In the meantime I think I will fix below:
> >> +#define __local_trylock_irqsave(lock, flags) \
> >> + ({ \
> >> + local_irq_save(flags); \
> >> + local_trylock_acquire(this_cpu_ptr(lock)); \
> >> + 1; \
> >> + })
as
#define __local_trylock_irqsave(lock, flags) \
({ \
local_irq_save(flags); \
local_trylock_acquire(this_cpu_ptr(lock)); \
!in_nmi(); \
})
I think that's good enough for memcg patch 4 and
doesn't grow local_lock_t on !RT.
We can introduce
typedef struct {
int count;
#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
struct lockdep_map dep_map;
struct task_struct *owner;
#endif
} local_trylock_t;
and the whole set of local_trylock_lock, local_trylock_unlock,...
But that's quite a bit of code. Feels a bit overkill for memcg patch 4.
At this point it feels that adding 'int count' to existing local_lock_t
is cleaner.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-12 2:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-10 2:39 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/6] bpf, mm: Introduce __GFP_TRYLOCK Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/6] mm, bpf: Introduce __GFP_TRYLOCK for opportunistic page allocation Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 5:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-10 9:05 ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-10 20:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-11 10:08 ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-10 22:06 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 10:19 ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-12 15:07 ` Sebastian Sewior
2024-12-12 15:21 ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-12 15:35 ` Sebastian Sewior
2024-12-12 15:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-12 16:00 ` Sebastian Sewior
2024-12-13 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-13 18:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-13 18:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-13 20:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-13 21:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-12-13 22:02 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-12 21:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 21:42 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 9:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-10 21:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 8:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12 2:14 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-12 8:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-10 18:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-10 22:42 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 8:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-10 2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/6] mm, bpf: Introduce free_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 8:35 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-10 22:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-12 14:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-12 19:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 10:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12 1:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 10:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-11 11:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12 2:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2024-12-12 9:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-13 14:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12 15:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-12 19:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/6] memcg: Add __GFP_TRYLOCK support Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 23:47 ` kernel test robot
2024-12-10 2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 5/6] mm, bpf: Use __GFP_ACCOUNT in try_alloc_pages() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-11 12:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-12 2:54 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-10 2:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 6/6] bpf: Use try_alloc_pages() to allocate pages for bpf needs Alexei Starovoitov
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