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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	 Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] slab: Introduce kmalloc_nolock() and kfree_nolock().
Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 18:51:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJt3aRCcG=Zgt+-hwKdeDcvE0Gvcc3fSKXURr0d+7OU8A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d25b6lxjjzi3zqbotlrapx57ukjl7frmyvg2lgx5omos3zqg4m@ukkod2jdmieb>

On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 6:25 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> > > >               obj_exts[off].objcg = NULL;
> > > > -             refill_obj_stock(objcg, obj_size, true, -obj_size,
> > > > -                              slab_pgdat(slab), cache_vmstat_idx(s));
> > > > +             if (unlikely(lock_held)) {
> > > > +                     atomic_add(obj_size, &objcg->nr_charged_bytes);
> > >
> > > objcg->nr_charged_bytes is stats ignorant and the relevant stats need to
> > > be updated before putting stuff into it.
> >
> > I'm not following.
> > It's functionally equivalent to refill_obj_stock() without
> > __account_obj_stock().
> > And the stats are not ignored.
> > The next __memcg_slab_free_hook() from good context will update
> > them. It's only a tiny delay in update.
> > I don't see why it's an issue.
>
> For the slab object of size obj_size which is being freed here, we need
> to update NR_SLAB_RECLAIMABLE_B or NR_SLAB_UNRECLAIMABLE_B stat for the
> corresponding objcg by the amount of obj_size. If we don't call
> __account_obj_stock() here we will loose the context and information to
> update these stats later.

Lose context?
pgdat has to match objcg, so I don't think we lose anything.
Later refill_obj_stock() will take objcg->nr_charged_bytes and
apply to appropriate NR_SLAB_[UN]RECLAIMABLE_B.
The patch introduces a delay in update to stats.
I still think it's correct, but I agree it's harder to reason about it,
since stats may not reflect the real numbers at that very instance.
But seeing how rstat flush is periodic and racy too I don't see
how it's a problem in practice.

>
> The css_rstat_updated() is the new name of cgroup_rstat_updated() and it
> is only a piece of the puzzle. My plan is to memcg stats reentrant which
> would allow to call __account_obj_stock (or whatever new name would be)
> in nmi context and then comsume_obj_stock() and refill_obj_stock() would
> work very similar to consume_stock() and refill_stock().
>
> Please give me couple of days and I can share the full RFC of the memcg
> side.

Sure thing. I don't insist on this particular way of charge/uncharge.
Sounds like I should drop mm/memcontrol.c bits, since your approach
will address the same re-entrance issue but in a more synchronous
(easier to reason about) way. Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-06  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-01  3:27 [PATCH 0/6] mm: Reentrant kmalloc Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01  3:27 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: Rename try_alloc_pages() to alloc_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06  8:26   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07  1:24     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01  3:27 ` [PATCH 2/6] locking/local_lock: Expose dep_map in local_trylock_t Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 12:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-06 14:55     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07  1:25       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-12 13:26   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-12 16:46     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01  3:27 ` [PATCH 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_lock_is_locked() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06 12:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07  1:28     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-12 14:56   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-12 15:01     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-12 15:23       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-01  3:27 ` [PATCH 4/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_lock_irqsave_check() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-07 13:02   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-12 14:03   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-12 17:16     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-13  6:58       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-13 21:55         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01  3:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: Allow GFP_ACCOUNT and GFP_COMP to be used in alloc_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06  8:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07  1:33     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-01  3:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] slab: Introduce kmalloc_nolock() and kfree_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-05 18:46   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-06  0:49     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-06  1:24       ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-06  1:51         ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2025-05-06 18:05           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-06 12:01   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07  0:31     ` Harry Yoo
2025-05-07  2:23       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-07  8:38       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-07  2:20     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-07 10:44       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-09  1:03   ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-24 17:13     ` SLAB_NO_CMPXCHG was:: " Alexei Starovoitov
2025-06-25 11:38       ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-26 20:03         ` Alexei Starovoitov

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