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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-trace-kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	audit@vger.kernel.org,
	 LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org,  bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] fs/exec: Drop task_lock() inside __get_task_comm()
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:35:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJ_RPg_xTjuO=+3G=4auZkS-t-F2WTs18rU2PbVdJVbdQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbAASdjLjfDv5ZH7uj=oChKE6iYnwjKFMu6oabzqfs2QUw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:57 PM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 11:52 AM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > Quoted from Linus [0]:
> > >
> > >   Since user space can randomly change their names anyway, using locking
> > >   was always wrong for readers (for writers it probably does make sense
> > >   to have some lock - although practically speaking nobody cares there
> > >   either, but at least for a writer some kind of race could have
> > >   long-term mixed results
> >
> > Ugh.
> > Ick.
> >
> > This code is buggy.
> >
> > I won't argue that Linus is wrong, about removing the
> > task_lock.
> >
> > Unfortunately strscpy_pad does not work properly with the
> > task_lock removed, and buf_size larger that TASK_COMM_LEN.
> > There is a race that will allow reading past the end
> > of tsk->comm, if we read while tsk->common is being
> > updated.
>
> It appears so. Thanks for pointing it out. Additionally, other code,
> such as the BPF helper bpf_get_current_comm(), also uses strscpy_pad()
> directly without the task_lock. It seems we should change that as
> well.

Hmm. What race do you see?
If lock is removed from __get_task_comm() it probably can be removed from
__set_task_comm() as well.
And both are calling strscpy_pad to write and read comm.
So I don't see how it would read past sizeof(comm),
because 'buf' passed into __set_task_comm is NUL-terminated.
So the concurrent read will find it.

> >
> > So __get_task_comm needs to look something like:
> >
> > char *__get_task_comm(char *buf, size_t buf_size, struct task_struct *tsk)
> > {
> >         size_t len = buf_size;
> >         if (len > TASK_COMM_LEN)
> >                 len = TASK_COMM_LEN;
> >         memcpy(buf, tsk->comm, len);
> >         buf[len -1] = '\0';
> >         return buf;
> > }
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
>
> >
> > What shows up in buf past the '\0' is not guaranteed in the above
> > version but I would be surprised if anyone cares.
>
> I believe we pad it to prevent the leakage of kernel data. In this
> case, since no kernel data will be leaked, the following change may be
> unnecessary.

It's not about leaking of kernel data, but more about not writing
garbage past NUL.
Because comm[] is a part of some record that is used as a key
in a hash map.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-02 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-02  2:37 [PATCH 0/6] kernel: Avoid memcpy of task comm Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs/exec: Drop task_lock() inside __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  3:51   ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-02  6:56     ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02 16:35       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2024-06-02 17:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-02 18:23           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-03 11:35             ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-10 12:34             ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-10 23:01               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-06-02 17:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-04 13:02   ` Matus Jokay
2024-06-04 20:01   ` Matus Jokay
2024-06-05  2:48     ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 2/6] tracing: Replace memcpy() with __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 21:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 21:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:19       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 22:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-03 22:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-03 22:40             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-04  2:35               ` Yafang Shao
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 3/6] auditsc: " Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 21:03   ` Paul Moore
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 4/6] security: " Yafang Shao
2024-06-03 22:06   ` Paul Moore
2024-06-02  2:37 ` [PATCH 5/6] bpftool: Make task comm always be NUL-terminated Yafang Shao
2024-06-02 21:01   ` Quentin Monnet
2024-06-02  2:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] selftests/bpf: Replace memcpy() with __get_task_comm() Yafang Shao

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