From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
JP Kobryn <inwardvessel@gmail.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"open list:CONTROL GROUP (CGROUP)" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/23] mm: introduce BPF struct ops for OOM handling
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 15:07:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQ+iEcMaJ68LNt2XxOeJtdZkCzJwDk9ueovQbASrX7WMdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87qzumq358.fsf@linux.dev>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 11:42 AM Roman Gushchin
<roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 4:18 PM Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
> >>
> >> +bool bpf_handle_oom(struct oom_control *oc)
> >> +{
> >> + struct bpf_oom_ops *bpf_oom_ops = NULL;
> >> + struct mem_cgroup __maybe_unused *memcg;
> >> + int idx, ret = 0;
> >> +
> >> + /* All bpf_oom_ops structures are protected using bpf_oom_srcu */
> >> + idx = srcu_read_lock(&bpf_oom_srcu);
> >> +
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> >> + /* Find the nearest bpf_oom_ops traversing the cgroup tree upwards */
> >> + for (memcg = oc->memcg; memcg; memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg)) {
> >> + bpf_oom_ops = READ_ONCE(memcg->bpf_oom);
> >> + if (!bpf_oom_ops)
> >> + continue;
> >> +
> >> + /* Call BPF OOM handler */
> >> + ret = bpf_ops_handle_oom(bpf_oom_ops, memcg, oc);
> >> + if (ret && oc->bpf_memory_freed)
> >> + goto exit;
> >> + }
> >> +#endif /* CONFIG_MEMCG */
> >> +
> >> + /*
> >> + * System-wide OOM or per-memcg BPF OOM handler wasn't successful?
> >> + * Try system_bpf_oom.
> >> + */
> >> + bpf_oom_ops = READ_ONCE(system_bpf_oom);
> >> + if (!bpf_oom_ops)
> >> + goto exit;
> >> +
> >> + /* Call BPF OOM handler */
> >> + ret = bpf_ops_handle_oom(bpf_oom_ops, NULL, oc);
> >> +exit:
> >> + srcu_read_unlock(&bpf_oom_srcu, idx);
> >> + return ret && oc->bpf_memory_freed;
> >> +}
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> +static int bpf_oom_ops_reg(void *kdata, struct bpf_link *link)
> >> +{
> >> + struct bpf_struct_ops_link *ops_link = container_of(link, struct bpf_struct_ops_link, link);
> >> + struct bpf_oom_ops **bpf_oom_ops_ptr = NULL;
> >> + struct bpf_oom_ops *bpf_oom_ops = kdata;
> >> + struct mem_cgroup *memcg = NULL;
> >> + int err = 0;
> >> +
> >> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MEMCG) && ops_link->cgroup_id) {
> >> + /* Attach to a memory cgroup? */
> >> + memcg = mem_cgroup_get_from_ino(ops_link->cgroup_id);
> >> + if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(memcg))
> >> + return PTR_ERR(memcg);
> >> + bpf_oom_ops_ptr = bpf_oom_memcg_ops_ptr(memcg);
> >> + } else {
> >> + /* System-wide OOM handler */
> >> + bpf_oom_ops_ptr = &system_bpf_oom;
> >> + }
> >
> > I don't like the fallback and special case of cgroup_id == 0.
> > imo it would be cleaner to require CONFIG_MEMCG for this feature
> > and only allow attach to a cgroup.
> > There is always a root cgroup that can be attached to and that
> > handler will be acting as "system wide" oom handler.
>
> I thought about it, but then it can't be used on !CONFIG_MEMCG
> configurations and also before cgroupfs is mounted, root cgroup
> is created etc.
before that bpf isn't viable either, and oom is certainly not an issue.
> This is why system-wide things are often handled in a
> special way, e.g. in by PSI (grep system_group_pcpu).
>
> I think supporting !CONFIG_MEMCG configurations might be useful for
> some very stripped down VM's, for example.
I thought I wouldn't need to convince the guy who converted bpf maps
to memcg and it made it pretty much mandatory for the bpf subsystem :)
I think the following is long overdue:
diff --git a/kernel/bpf/Kconfig b/kernel/bpf/Kconfig
index eb3de35734f0..af60be6d3d41 100644
--- a/kernel/bpf/Kconfig
+++ b/kernel/bpf/Kconfig
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ config BPF_SYSCALL
select NET_SOCK_MSG if NET
select NET_XGRESS if NET
select PAGE_POOL if NET
+ depends on MEMCG
default n
With this we can cleanup a ton of code.
Let's not add more hacks just because some weird thing
still wants !MEMCG. If they do, they will survive without bpf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-28 22:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-27 23:17 [PATCH v2 00/23] mm: BPF OOM Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] bpf: move bpf_struct_ops_link into bpf.h Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] bpf: initial support for attaching struct ops to cgroups Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 15:57 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-29 18:01 ` Song Liu
2025-10-29 20:26 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-30 17:22 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-30 18:03 ` Song Liu
2025-10-30 18:19 ` Amery Hung
2025-10-30 19:06 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-30 21:34 ` Song Liu
2025-10-30 22:42 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-10-30 23:14 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-31 0:05 ` Song Liu
2025-10-30 22:19 ` bpf_st_ops and cgroups. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-30 23:24 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-31 3:03 ` Yafang Shao
2025-10-31 6:14 ` Song Liu
2025-10-31 11:35 ` Yafang Shao
2025-10-31 17:37 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-29 18:14 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-29 20:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-29 20:36 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-29 21:18 ` Song Liu
2025-10-29 21:27 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-29 21:37 ` Song Liu
2025-10-29 21:45 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-30 4:32 ` Song Liu
2025-10-30 16:13 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-30 17:56 ` Song Liu
2025-10-29 21:53 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-29 22:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-29 22:53 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-29 23:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-30 0:03 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-30 0:16 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-30 6:33 ` Yafang Shao
2025-10-29 21:04 ` Song Liu
2025-10-30 0:43 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] bpf: mark struct oom_control's memcg field as TRUSTED_OR_NULL Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] mm: define mem_cgroup_get_from_ino() outside of CONFIG_SHRINKER_DEBUG Roman Gushchin
2025-10-31 8:32 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] mm: declare memcg_page_state_output() in memcontrol.h Roman Gushchin
2025-10-31 8:34 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] mm: introduce BPF struct ops for OOM handling Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:57 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 17:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-28 18:42 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 22:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2025-10-28 22:56 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 21:33 ` Song Liu
2025-10-28 23:24 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-30 0:20 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-10-30 5:57 ` Yafang Shao
2025-10-30 14:26 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-31 9:02 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-02 21:36 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-03 19:00 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-04 1:45 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-04 8:18 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-04 18:14 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-04 19:22 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] mm: introduce bpf_oom_kill_process() bpf kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-10-31 9:05 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-02 21:09 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] mm: introduce BPF kfuncs to deal with memcg pointers Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 16:10 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 17:12 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-10-28 18:03 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-28 18:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 17:42 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-28 18:12 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] mm: introduce bpf_get_root_mem_cgroup() BPF kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] mm: introduce BPF kfuncs to access memcg statistics and events Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 16:16 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-31 9:08 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-31 9:31 ` [PATCH v2 00/23] mm: BPF OOM Michal Hocko
2025-10-31 16:48 ` Lance Yang
2025-11-02 20:53 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-03 18:18 ` Michal Hocko
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